Sister$Cash - Sisters in Cash
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How Instagram Strategy Powers Success in Adult Content Creation
Unexpected career paths often lead to the most fascinating success stories, and Mika Nox's journey from aspiring tax advisor to award-winning erotic influencer perfectly illustrates this truth. With an MBA background and experience ranging from fashion marketing to US Army logistics, Mika brings a refreshingly strategic approach to adult content creation that sets her apart in an increasingly competitive industry.
The turning point in Mika's career came at the Venus Fair, where she initially attended as a curious visitor. That single experience transformed her trajectory—within just one year, she went from attendee to featured model, even securing a prestigious Venus Award. This rapid ascension wasn't luck but the result of genuine networking, professional relationships, and a business-minded approach to an industry often navigated haphazardly by newcomers.
What makes Mika's approach distinctive is her blend of entertainment and education. Her "Seduction in Science" series on Instagram demonstrates her commitment to breaking taboos through informed conversation rather than shock value alone. This educational content not only differentiates her brand but establishes her authority while providing genuine value to followers. When combined with her methodical approach to platform rules and content strategy, it's clear why her engagement continues to grow while others struggle with restrictions.
Perhaps most fascinating is Mika's professional expansion into dominatrix work, which she approached with the same structured dedication she would any business venture—completing comprehensive training including online coursework, coaching sessions, and in-person practicums. This commitment to professional development reflects her overarching philosophy that expertise in any field requires investment and proper training, not just natural talent.
For creators looking to build sustainable careers in adult entertainment, Mika's story offers a masterclass in diversification, brand building, and professional development. Her partnerships with platforms like 4Based for passive income through affiliate marketing and Legal Fans for content protection showcase a sophisticated understanding of business fundamentals often overlooked in the industry. Whether you're an established creator or considering entering the field, her journey proves that bringing business acumen to creative work isn't just possible—it's essential for long-term success.
Welcome to a new episode of the Sisters in Cash podcast. This episode is featured by 4Based and LegalFans and legal fans, and today I have a very special creator with us. Who are you? Tell me a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2:Hi, nice to be a star. I'm Mika Nox. I'm a creator and would describe myself as an erotic influencer, and I'm really happy to be here.
Speaker 1:I have become very attentive to you in the last few years. You have been a little bit inflated in the last few years. Would you like to tell a little bit? I think you are now ambassador right and we have already met in Miami.
Speaker 2:Yes, with 4Based.
Speaker 1:Exactly with 4Based. Maybe you can say something about that, because I think you have already received a Venus Award, right?
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly. Yes, we really met. I was on the road with 4Based. I am now also an ambassador for 4Based and actually I come from a completely different corner. I actually studied BWL and originally wanted to become a tax advisor so a completely different corner, but that somehow got out of hand. I'm a person who gets bored relatively quickly. I was actually also in marketing in a fashion company. I was with the US Army in logistics.
Speaker 1:I read that First of all, you have to get Wikipedia one day, so that was really cool. And then I was so positively surprised I think, my Lord, what has she done? So marketing is also completely mine. And then you were the project manager at the Army right, yes, logistics project management. I think that's so cool. And then you just slipped into our industry.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly, so you can really call it partly slipped in, so privately. I've always been interested in it, a little bit of the background. I've heard of podcasts or followed creators and models on YouTube and what they do, but actually more like how you follow influencers. But personally I didn't have much to do with the industry. I have always been a very open person, have always liked to talk about everything which is actually also a bit of a taboo topic in society, because I think that shouldn't be a taboo topic. You should be able to talk about everything.
Speaker 2:And then I had in my job because I've it was always getting boring relatively quickly as a little side by side as a erotic creator to make a little content without much effort, just on a fan platform, kind of like a side by side. But that changed relatively quickly, namely at the Venus Fair. So two years ago I was at the Venus Fair as a visitor. I always wanted to take a look at how it is there and I went there as a regular visitor and talked to a lot of people there with a lot of models and I found out that somehow that's my world, I think that's so cool that you mention that, because we recently posted a Venus checklist on how to model yourself, especially if you want to start in the industry, should you act on Venus.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm telling you a little bit about it. That's super interesting.
Speaker 2:I actually just wanted to look at it. I didn't really take it that way myself as a model. That was just a waste of time for me. But then I got to know so many models. I also got to know so many models. Then I got to know Vika Models too. That's a bit of my agency. That helped me make the leap in terms of the whole marketing.
Speaker 2:And, yes, I met so many people where I thought, somehow that's my world, I like that. This open, this, you can talk about everything, you immediately have a baseline. And then I thought to myself, oh, I'll get in there, so I think that's cool. And then I started with webcam, live streaming, such things. I also uploaded videos and really started with Instagram, because before that I was actually only private on Instagram. I didn't post anything, I just watched. And then I really started to make my own Instagram account and then it somehow I'll say it now became independent. So last year that was two years ago when I was a visitor on Venus, and last year I was already there as a model and was nominated for a Venus Award. That was for me so okay, blatant, and then I also won it. So it was completely absurd, and since then I've been there.
Speaker 1:So, as I said, I think that's also because of your professional past, because many people wouldn't behave like the Venus as you did. We also explicitly agreed that you should connect with people there, that you should really do a few reach-outs, that you should also do follow-ups after the trade fair, and I think you just took your hand through your professional experience, of course, because many just walk over the trade fairs like that Exactly, and that's totally funny that you're saying that right now. So, if you want to take a look, as I said, we made a Venus checklist, even two. You are welcome to look at our Instagram account. This is in cash, so, and now you're relatively fresh with it and, of course, you have a really good team behind you, who then, of course, also took a little bit of your hand right, die dich dann natürlich auch ein bisschen an der Hand genommen haben. Richtig Hast du da wöchentliche Strukturen also, dass du genau weißt, an dem und dem Tag mache ich Camp, an dem und dem Tag mache ich Content. Also, wie hat sich dein Erfolgsmodell da aufgebaut?
Speaker 2:Also, ich fand es schon mal sehr wichtig, wie du sagst say, to talk to people on Venus. You can also just chat with the models. So even if someone meets me on Venus who might be thinking of joining, come here, talk to me. None of us bites. I think no one is angry when you ask any questions. On the contrary, I'm always happy when I can give tips. If you ask any questions, on the contrary, I am always happy when I can give tips and look at which business partners there are on Venus.
Speaker 2:You always have to be a little careful. I say now, you must not disturb everyone, because it is like in every industry, there are the black sheep which unfortunately also want to exploit you as a model. That's why you need a little bit of human knowledge, a little bit of a sense of the finger to see who is a good partner, a good business partner that I can take into my own hands or who takes me into their hands. I was really lucky, and maybe also good human knowledge, to come to Wicca Models and it matched right away and I have to say, yes, they just have a team of a lot of models, a bit like a union, I would almost say, even if there are some in our industry, but you just make a lot of mistakes that you just make out of ignorance at the beginning, because nobody tells you, because the mistakes have all been made by them and they can pass on their knowledge. And, yes, you need a little self-discipline. I would say it's probably best to do that.
Speaker 2:I also made a little weekly plan for myself. On that day I want to focus on Instagram, for example. On that day I make content for the fan platform. Structure yourself a little bit.
Speaker 1:Can you tell us a little bit about your structure, because that is very important, because I can from me, even if I've been with you for so long, to be honest, I have absolutely not structured.
Speaker 2:I also always struggle a bit with structures. So if I set my routines myself, then it's good, then I need them too. If they are somehow laid out from above, then I can't deal with it at all. It always depends a bit on what kind of guy you are. But I think it makes sense to think about how much time I can spend on a day. Many people have family obligations, do that kind of side by side. Of course you have to think about how many hours a day I can hang in and then divide them up. Of course, if you start with a webcam, you have to plan your webcam time fängt sich, seine Webcam-Zeiten einplanen.
Speaker 2:Man muss sich aber auch einplanen für Instagram was ich für wahnsinnig wichtig halte regelmäßig Content zu machen.
Speaker 2:Ich mache dann meistens ich schreibe mir über die Woche so Ideen zusammen mit weil ich mache ganz gerne so Aufklärungsposts und solche Sachen Ideen Oder das ist eine coole, real Idee, oder da habe ich irgendwas gesehen, das kann ich für mich ein or that's a cool idea, or there, I saw something, that I can adapt a little bit and use, which is a good tip. By the way, you don't have to reinvent the wheel, you can just jump up on Instagram with a lot of trends. I'll say it like that and then, once a week or twice a week, block a few hours Only for, for example, instagram, and then you can turn it all off and then post it over the week. Or twice a week, block a few hours only for, for example, instagram, and then you can turn the whole thing off and then post it over the week. You can plan that and have it for a week, as it were, to say how it could be. So I think that's a very good tip.
Speaker 1:That's exactly it. That's a very, very interesting thing, because that would have been my next question to you. How do you handle that with the Instagram research, with the Instagram content creation? So is it so that you say, for example, on Sunday I really look for everything out, on Monday I film? I don't know if you want to post three Reels a day, 21 Reels, and on Tuesday you edit them, or how are you? What is this Instagram story or social media content in general? How are you positioned there?
Speaker 2:That's exactly what I did at the beginning that I had such solid social media times in the week where I tried to keep them. I had so solid social media times in the week where I tried to keep them. It's not going so well anymore because I've got so much to do now that I have to see how I can incorporate it into my everyday life. I think it's normal that it will change at some point. Then you have to take this step, this learning process of I have a certain structure and at some point I have to give it up a bit and become more flexible. You just have to find that out for yourself. Am I more of a time plan person, or do I need this flexibility, and am I then also disciplined enough to do that?
Speaker 2:At the beginning, I really had these social media days where I planned it for myself. In the meantime, it just builds up in my. Mittlerweile baut sich das einfach so in meinen Alltag ein, jetzt wo ich es auch quasi Vollzeit mache. Ich bin unterwegs, scroll vielleicht mal durch, so wie jeder Instagram Nutzer.
Speaker 1:Siehst du, ich fühle mich nämlich immer so schlecht dabei, weil ich habe nämlich auch keine Struktur. Ich mache das alles nebenbei.
Speaker 2:Ja, und wenn es für dich so läuft und für mich läuft es mittlerweile auch so dann ist es ja gut. Es ist aber schön, dass du das so positiv hervorhebst, and if it works for you and for me, it works for me too then it's good.
Speaker 1:You just have to it's nice that you highlight that so positively. Yes, totally. I've always thought I have no structure, but when you see it from your point of view, it sounds like you're totally the pro that you can just integrate it into the day.
Speaker 2:Yes, of course Every person works differently. Everyone needs more or less structure.
Speaker 1:I'm also honest I couldn't film 21 reels in one day. I'm not a person for that I do it on day three, and then I'm happy.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't do that many at once either. Often ideas come to me spontaneously and then I notice, oh yes, I have maybe half an hour slot free. Now I turn that off quickly, or now I put this info post together. I'm doing that completely spontaneously now and then you have to go somewhere. If you go a little bit in the direction of influencer, then the Instagram content also lives from that. You take people into your everyday life, show behind the scenes things.
Speaker 1:That's exactly how I see it. I used to do that for hours, and the best reels from me are always the ones I did in the evening, at night, unbaked in the kitchen.
Speaker 2:The people are interested in the real Mika, the real Jessie they want to see. That's also interesting. Personal branding Exactly exactly. Show your own personality, don't make a big deal of it, Not just doing any lip sync reels.
Speaker 1:That used to be easy. That was still easy.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right, that was easier content to do somewhere. But it doesn't really bind. You just only see your face when you sing a song. But what really brings you over what kind of person you are are personal things, where you really show something from your everyday life.
Speaker 1:Yes, and now I think that's really cool. You said you make info posts. Explain to us a little more about the info posts.
Speaker 2:What is very important to me is this topic of enlightenment, because the topic of sexuality and eroticism is such a taboo topic. I simply notice how much information demand there is among people, and that's a bit of my passion. So if I can only help a couple out there have more fun in bed, then I've already achieved something.
Speaker 1:So you really focused on these couple stories, or something.
Speaker 2:Not only on sexuality in general. That's something very individual.
Speaker 1:I haven't met a creator who does it like that, and I think that's really cool.
Speaker 2:Yes, as I said, we in the industry are maybe, I would say, the experts a bit for everything that concerns sexuality. I would say so because you deal with it a lot, Probably you don't think about it anymore.
Speaker 1:You think it's completely normal that I know all this or something. Maybe it's not.
Speaker 2:Most people don't even know that, and that's okay, but still I find it important to get information about everything possible, whether these are risks, whether this how women work. Many men think there is a script and I'll spoil it and then the woman has fun, but that every woman is so different, every man is so different every person in general. In principle, you are.
Speaker 1:I have to look into your info post. I would love to Do you still have it on your normal Instagram right Exactly on my.
Speaker 2:Instagram. I have a story highlight which is called Seduction in Science, and then I make a little post in the direction of scientific evidence. Oh, that's so cool.
Speaker 1:Oh God, we'll have to talk about it again sometime.
Speaker 2:That's probably cool.
Speaker 1:How do you run? So what would you say works best on your Instagram?
Speaker 2:What is really going very well at the moment are collab reels, so that's also a tip on models and creators who may have just started. Networking is very important. Connect with as many people as possible from the industry. Look, contacts are everything. Exactly, contacts are everything. And then not only spicy content, but also instagram content. Make fun. Reals comedy always works very well. Or, as I said, you show your life and then invite someone as a colleague on Instagram and they run really well because you then, of course, share the target groups a bit.
Speaker 1:You just have to pay attention to which account you are doing it with, not the bound account Exactly so.
Speaker 2:I always check the account status of all greens beforehand. You can see that in the settings on Instagram.
Speaker 1:So you let yourself be shown that beforehand.
Speaker 2:Yes, because I don't want to be restricted myself. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:Many don't even consider that.
Speaker 2:I always let myself be shown a screenshot and also send mine that everything is green, and then collabs can be made and they run really well, and you don't take anything away from each other. Some always say, I don't post anyone else on my Instagram. That's so crazy. That's absolutely not the case, on the contrary, because people are looking through Instagram and scrolling anyway weg. Das ist absolut nicht der fall, im gegenteil, weil die leute suchen ja sowieso auf instagram, scrollen durch, die sehen ja sowieso andere leute. Und es ist doch auch interessant, wenn ich freunde, freundinnen habe. In der branche finden es doch die fans auch interessant, mit wem ich so abhängen und was wir so miteinander machen. Und man profitiert auf komplett voneinander gegenseitig, ohne dass man sich irgendwas wegnehmen, genau, und das guck mal das finde ich halt, ich weiß nicht.
Speaker 1:And together without that, I have to take something away, exactly. And that comma, I think that's just. I don't know where you got that knowledge, because most people are not interested in it. They just tag everything and everyone, and that's just the reason why a lot of models or platforms are blocked on Instagram, because the more you tag banned people I mean, it's actually quite simple. Everyone always thinks I was reported, and so on. No, you weren't reported. You've never read through the Instagram Terms of Service in your life, instagram. I always say what would I do if I had a child? What would I show my 13 if I had a child? I think everyone should just take a look and the girls who are really very free-spirited. Then it might be noticeable that it hurts a bit for Instagram.
Speaker 2:That's why I have a shadow ban. You really shouldn't do that on Instagram.
Speaker 1:You see, and many you know, they don't even know it. They post only underwear. I'm live in front of the camera now. That's just the old generation where you think like that.
Speaker 1:No, you have to be careful Girls, you haven't understood the game yet, because you know. Then you just have to go to X, then you see everything naked. For verstanden, weil weißt du, dann brauchst du ja nur zu ex gehen, da siehst du alles nackt, so beispiel. Aber genau wo wir eben gerade darüber geredet haben, womit du die leute catched, ist es auch nicht mehr einfach. Schöne bearbeitete fotos, da sind wir lange über diesen zeit. Es ist wirklich personal branding so, und du bist ja auch so vielfältig, und deswegen ich finde, diese ganze education, eine geschichte thing is so cool. Thank you, so wait, I have to quickly close the door, but I'm still here. Mega interesting in any case.
Speaker 2:Mega, mega, mega interesting.
Speaker 1:Where did you get your social media knowledge?
Speaker 2:Actually, myself, there is not really the one book that you can read Not really a book, but the one guide but it's always good to follow people on Instagram who know a little bit about themselves, who analyze the algorithm, follow accounts that are simply experts in it, and a little bit is then also simply trial and error. I also lost an account at the very beginning. I think that happens to you. At the beginning, I didn't get it back either, but then I just restarted and since then I've been on Instagram.
Speaker 1:Hey, I think that's Careful. Hey, chapeau. I think that's really good. Because I'm also such a research type, I also enjoy it. I also watch a lot of YouTube videos from such Instagram experts or Mosseri. He also says a lot of little information in his question rounds and if you're just a little bit aware, you can take so much with you. I think it's cool.
Speaker 2:Another good tip for the terms and conditions. I mean, no one wants to read through this pile of terms on Instagram. But ChatGPT is our friend and teacher and of course you can say to him let's summarize this, Give me the most important points, or you tell him I am a creator for spicy content. Chatgpt understands that too, and what is?
Speaker 1:important. I once asked ChatGPT what can I ask you? What can you answer me? That was also very interesting. There are now AdWords ChatGPTs I would call them interesting. There are now adult chat GPTs I would call it. I don't want to say it now, because I've been applying for an adult friendly chat GPT for so long, which works really well, but when the people don't get anything back at all. So I really did it because I just thought the program was so cool. But now there is also already from XGROG. You can also use it there. I've heard from many models. Again, I wouldn't do it if it was connected to your X-account, because if you go in this explicit direction, then of course it is disadvantageous for your ex-account. I find all this AI stuff insanely interesting. Anyway, I mean, we're just at the beginning, but how do you use AI for your business?
Speaker 2:Quite a lot. Oh, my God, that's such a great story. Yes, totally so, both for private and for my business, chatgpt is my daily companion. Of course, you always have to be a little careful which data you put in. Everyone has to know how much you want to give the price. But let's say you want 30 days content plan for Instagram. You have to have a little plan. I want to show something, show something, show something. Then you give him all the information and then he really makes a plan with ideas Day one, make a reel where you do this and that Day two do this, and that you still have to implement it yourself. It's clear the AI doesn't do it for you, but meanwhile, it can also create your pictures and videos that's not a problem.
Speaker 2:Yes, of course, but I think it will also change somewhere. Of course, we all use AI. There are also more AI models from which content is bought, so to speak, but it will probably still go in that direction.
Speaker 1:I believe that this hype of the AI models with which you can earn money on fan platforms will also quickly go down again, because, let's be honest, how boring can something be?
Speaker 2:Yes, I also believe that in the future it will still go further in the direction of there is a real person behind it. I see something from everyday life, how the person lives as it is now. So I don't think that AI content will change the entire social media game as far as content is concerned, but, of course, the content creation, the structuring there, you can do AI super well.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can also take a screenshot of your Instagram, your bio, your name, and then you say you can. Then you say your niche, you say can you optimize it for me, analyze it? And then chatGPT comes to you with the keywords, your suitable bio, because Instagram is going right back to keywords and then she writes you a little bit and tells you is a picture good? Is your picture not good? How does your feed look? I think totally crazy when you have to be a little careful.
Speaker 2:Many I notice now just take for real descriptions for the captions below chat GP, GPT. Let's go for it. I think you have to be a little careful. First of all, you notice it, and it's not so interesting if you notice exactly that chat GPT has been written, and Instagram also notices when it's just copy-paste from chat GPT.
Speaker 1:Yes, I read that. Sometime you have to enter it. You shouldn't do this copy paste, because they'll probably notice.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I already have that, but also a little tip Edits, as Mosteri said, are being pushed. If you upload your reels via edits, they get more range.
Speaker 2:That's right. There's also a small batch created with edits, exactly, and they're actually ranked better because Instagram wants that. That, the fact that it is actually very interesting must be.
Speaker 1:There are so many information so I can really say follow the head of instagram. Is that? Yes, I think, and he says so many are questions. Last was also asked very interesting should I, before I post a real first two hours interact? He said that's an absolute myth. It doesn't matter if you interact for two hours or not, as long as you after that and that shows you Instagram. Now already it's actually so simple. They write there if you interact here with your comments, then you will get more reach in the long term. So actually they already present everything to you.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is said little directly, but a lot through the flower. You can already read out how the algorithm works. That can still be changed in three weeks. That's a bit of a crux With social media platforms. If something is changed in the algorithm, then it works completely differently, and then you always have to stay on the ball, observe what is being played out, what is going well. Maybe also look at other creators when they make any reels or posts, what is going well with them, what are they doing, and then touch on that yourself. Get a lot of inspiration from it.
Speaker 1:Do you follow all kinds of people or do you only follow people where the content is interesting for you, where you might duplicate it, or do you also pay attention to what the algorithm is about who you follow?
Speaker 2:No, not that. So the people I follow, I even follow quite a few. Some of them have three accounts. I think I even follow a thousand people, but many of them are people I either personally know that I have met before. There are many people from the industry, but there are also many musicians with whom I have already talked to. I really know a lot of them, or you've already had contact over Instagram or so, or there are really people where I say, hey, the content is totally interesting, I can use it for myself.
Speaker 1:You also do. You really have a mix between reels, street interviews, beautiful pictures, your daily life, so super interesting. Now there is still something else. I read something else on Wikipedia. You go a little more in the dominant direction, is that right?
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly I'm also very friendly.
Speaker 1:Tell us something about it as family-friendly as possible, please. Yes, yes, of course I try, Because I think that's super interesting, because you can see your business mindset behind it again that you wanted to jump into a franchise story.
Speaker 2:Is that right? I would like to do that in the future at some point. My own Dominar studio At the moment not yet At the moment I work simply because I like it, because I like it also as Dominar, so quasi real on site. You rent yourself as Dominar in Domina Studios and can then receive guests there, and I've been doing that for a few months now. I did something like an apprenticeship at a Hamburg domino Aurora Nianox, that's what it's called and that was great.
Speaker 1:You can really do an apprenticeship there, right.
Speaker 2:Yes, so you don't have an end or anything like that. But she offers it, because you have to pay a lot of attention, both as far as the bureaucratic aspect is concerned. You have to report after the prostitution protection law when you work as a domino For example. I am not touchable as a domino, my guests are not allowed to touch me. I touch the guests, but they are not allowed to touch me. Melden, wenn man als Dominer arbeitet. Ich zum Beispiel bin nämlich, ich bin nicht berührbar als Dominer, meine Gäste dürfen mich nicht anfassen. Ich fasse die Gäste an, aber die dürfen mich nicht anfassen. Das handhabt jeder anders. Trotzdem fällt das als Dienstleistung unter das Prostitutionsschutzgesetz, und man muss sich da quasi melden. In der jeweiligen Stadt, in der man arbeiten möchte, holt man sich so einen Ausweis, den man immer dabei haben muss.
Speaker 2:You get such a certificate, that you always have with you. You have to know that on the one hand. Then, how do I do advertising for me as a domino? What do you have to consider? What are the risks, when you play with a guest for example? And that's a huge knowledge that you actually need. But I felt really well prepared there. I have to say, I gave my first sessions, and it felt like I had never done anything else. So how long did your training go? Online course that she has prepared there super well which you can watch. I honestly said that in a few weeks, but I'm also a fast learner, so some do it portionally.
Speaker 1:She really set up an online course there.
Speaker 2:Yes, with videos, with teaching videos, where you can watch. I don't believe that.
Speaker 2:Then there are weekly coachings where you can talk to her via Zoom. There is also weekly coaching where you can talk to her via Zoom. And then there are also hospitality days with her in Hamburg, in her Mistress Empire, in her Domina studio, where you can also practice a little with her directly on site. There are always guests who are very happy to make themselves available for the new doors. Crazy. We can just practice a little bit and I had that through in a few months.
Speaker 1:But it's individual how long each person has, and how often did you have sessions with her?
Speaker 2:That was a complete day that I had at ear-sessions. It went over a few hours and then I just started myself.
Speaker 1:Wow, mega interesting. Did you go to Hamburg on purpose?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I always wanted to go to Hamburg. I will probably come to Hamburg again this year. Hamburg is really a cool city. Hamburg and Berlin and Cologne are a bit of the hotspots for the creators scene Berlin mostly, but there are also a lot in Hamburg. There is also the Olivia Jones family, for example, who do a lot in that direction, and that's why I wanted to go to Hamburg anyway. I then drove there and looked at it.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's so crazy that the Dominas have already focused on this online business.
Speaker 2:Less. I think I'm a bit of an exception. I'm this hybrid between the Dominar business and the Creator business, but also that she created such a course for it. Yes, absolutely so. She is also a total businesswoman and has been working as a domino for many years and gets so many inquiries that she thought at some point, then I'll just coach girls who also want to start with it Crazy.
Speaker 1:What did you pay for it? Can you tell us you probably want to?
Speaker 2:start Crazy. What did you pay for it? Can you tell us? You probably have to ask that yourself. I have to go to the side. It costs a lot of money but I have to say it amortizes itself relatively quickly because you can earn quite well as a domino.
Speaker 1:How often do you have sessions a week?
Speaker 2:So I don't do it weekly, I don't have time for that. I always do it once a month so that I can rent a studio in three or four days, and then I turn on the ads. There are portals that are specialized, where people know I find dominas. That's so awesome.
Speaker 1:The online training. I think it's so awesome. I never expected that there are online courses for that.
Speaker 2:Yes, of course you have to learn the experience in practice. There is still a lot to learn. It's a huge difference whether you do it in real life or you just hear it, but it just comes with the time.
Speaker 1:I say that because I have a lot of expertise and that it is, of course, totally beneficial for you online because you have a lot of them online and when you have that on real life, they notice that too.
Speaker 2:Yes, totally. It's a completely different step to have a real session with a guest than just over the screen. It's something completely different, but I think it's cool. I'm a person, I need a lot of variety.
Speaker 1:I think it's totally cool that you're so open with it.
Speaker 2:Yes, totally Sure. For many it's a taboo topic. For many. I'm back with my favorite topic, breaking up taboo topics. And that's really so. My guests that I have there, everything is there, through the bank, every social class, every education class. That can be your uncle, your brother, your grandpa, anyone. Most of the time it's really men who come to me. I also have couples sometimes, which is also interesting. Oh, that's interesting. Yes, totally. So often couples also contact each other who say, yes, we are either more dominant or they are more dominant and they always play a bit kinky with each other, but they would like to get a domina which then plays a part of the couple or both. There are very different dynamics. I also have many guests where the woman says that's not my thing, but if you have the predisposition then of course, then go once a month or so, go to a domino and live out there, which I think is really cool. So you don't always have to have all the preferences as a couple and can still be happy but can still talk openly about it.
Speaker 1:That will then be ah. Venus is then, in a completely different aspect, also super interesting for you in a completely different way. Yes, there are also the Kinky Area Exactly the Kinky Area, and so on. They are so deep in this story. There are so cool things. They also have a hall and show only for this whole kinky story exactly yes.
Speaker 2:So the kinky area is also insanely interesting. There is everything. There are not only dominoes, there are also doms male doms are. I will probably, when it works to Venus with a slave from me, come to, I'll be with Venus and will always do things for me, and in between I can massage my feet, or if other models are there, then I can massage their feet too. That's quite funny, and with that I'll also march through the kinky area and we'll look at it all.
Speaker 1:Nice. So then tell me, since we're talking about slaves? Right now, where can I find the models or the ghosts?
Speaker 2:On Venus, do you mean now?
Speaker 1:No, on which platform?
Speaker 2:Oh, on Instagram I'm meekanoxlive. There you can find all my links, and if someone is especially interested in me as a domino, then I have the mistressmikanoxde. There you have to speak to me. That's my domino homepage. I always write there when I'm back in the studio and give my all contact details, and then you can find me as Domina.
Speaker 1:That's interesting. So now you're also on 4Based. Tell me a little bit about why 4Based, 4based is a bit like my home.
Speaker 2:I would say. 4based is my platform, where I can basically show everything about myself. This year, I also became an ambassador for Forbest. I'm really proud of that. That's really cool.
Speaker 2:And it works a bit like Instagram, which I think is cool, because Instagram is really my hobby and my main platform where I am publicly present and 4Based works very similarly, only that you don't have this restriction. Like on Instagram, you can just show what you want within, but yes, of course, I'll show more of me, more of my age, also a few spices. And the cool thing is, when you are a model on 4Based, they have an affiliate program. That means if you work as a model user, then you get a share of everything this user buys in your lifetime. You get a share of everything that this user buys in his lifetime. So, both when he buys content from me and when he buys content from someone else, I still have a provision where I can build a passive income, so to speak. The more users I advertise, the higher it gets, of course, and that's a model that not every fan platform has now.
Speaker 1:And that's really cool? Not at all. Yes, I also heard that many models from four base, 50 percent only through these, again 50 or 60 percent only through this whole affiliate story. That's crazy okay, yes crazy yes, I mean on which platform do you have that? You don't have that otherwise, then four base also has the integration with legal fans, which means that your content is also protected. That's also included, content protection.
Speaker 2:I can recommend this to every model. I'm also with legal fans Me too and they are absolutely behind it. You basically don't find any leaks. It may well be that something pops up, unfortunately. Unfortunately, we always have to fight with that. That content is simply posted publicly by us, but they take it down, and I would like that too. First of all, from a youth protection point of view, because I don't want content from me to be available to everyone. On 4Based, you of course have this age test. You know everyone who is, who is 18 years old full-time, can watch that, and of course I don't want to. If I really make spicy content that is available to everyone, it is for fans. Of course, it is behind a paywall, but we live from it, and I think that's only fair, if you want to see these intimate insights, that you pay a little bit for it.
Speaker 1:And you really have to if you're with Legal Fans, to do nothing more. What your content protection is about? Yes, absolutely out-sourced and you have more capacity for content again, Because actually it is the task of a model to only make content to chat that is the task but not that you still have to take care of your content.
Speaker 2:You can't do that either, so you can't google links every day and then write them down at the end, and so on.
Speaker 1:I also talked about it with some model in Prague and she says yes, my husband does everything on his own Manual.
Speaker 2:And I say there are sometimes thousands of pages that are taken offline per month. You don't believe that at all, but it's really a lot.
Speaker 1:I have to do it again. You see, I trust legal fans so much. Ich muss auch mal wieder siehst du, ich vertraue Legal Fans so viel, ich habe schon so lange nicht mehr auf mein Dashboard geguckt, ich muss dringend mal wieder reingucken, ja, ja, okay, dann sag uns doch noch mal, welche Tage wirst du denn für deine Fans jetzt Also eigentlich ist das ja mehr ein Model B2B Podcast, aber ab one or the other fan gets confused. Tell us, on which days will you be on Venus? On all?
Speaker 2:days. I'm on Venus from Thursday to Sunday every day. I'll mostly be at the front desk or at Wicca Models. Those are my two main points. Or I'm just going to be on the fair and I'll do a little bit of interviews. Similar in the style of it also shows on my instagram will show a little venus insights. Then you have to always be a little careful on the venus that you don't see anything in the background that doesn't also have a lot of conditions.
Speaker 1:not many In 2012 or so. As I said, in my time it was still relatively fresh with Instagram and we all posted pictures and behind us was just a poster with a naked woman. You understand that you really have to be careful. You can't do that. So again for the models who are listening here, if you post pictures of Venus or you always have to look at what is in the background. That is insane.
Speaker 2:Take an outfit with you where you are relatively covered for Venus conditions, at least a bikini or something where you can't see anything, so that you can do social media content without being scolded.
Speaker 1:That is very, very, very important, because most accounts fly away after the venus and also pay attention to whom you tag because, as I said, many models are banned and, yes, that is not so nice but I would like to be on the venus and everyone can contact me if it is now you will also record a new podcast with me on Venus, which I am totally looking forward to.
Speaker 1:And if you do interviews, of course you will come to me, of course, and actually we should also go through the Kinky Area together. That would be super cool.
Speaker 2:We will do that. We will definitely do that. We have a slave with us. He can then carry us all he can.
Speaker 1:By the way, also massage his feet and come by, we'll do that. Yes, yes, mika, I know you're a little in a hurry today because the next appointment is already waiting. If you feel like it, your English will be pretty good. I think, if you feel like it, your English will be pretty good. Maybe you want to do a podcast in English after Venus? I would be very happy about that. I also do a lot of English podcasts, but I have now built in a lot of German because of Venus, and I thank you for today Because I know your time is running. It's rushing.
Speaker 2:Thank you for the invitation, nice that I was able to be there.
Speaker 1:It was fun, it was very nice to me, especially because you have such a great business know-how and that's always super interesting for the models. So, that's so, yes, your time. Thank you, we thank you and we'll talk to you and see you again on Venus. Until then.
Speaker 2:Dankeschön.
