Speaker 1: 0:08

Welcome to another episode of the Sisters in Cash podcast. This episode is featured by ModelSearchercom, your adult-friendly social media platform for based and famous social media platform for based and famous. So today is my guest the second time and I'm so happy that she got a time for our podcast, brittany Andrews, and I'm so happy because you had also a surgery, right.

Speaker 2: 0:44

I did. I did what a lot of biatches do. I ran off to Turkey and had some drastic surgery done and now I'm going. Ah, did I do too much? So only time will tell. And you know praying a lot to my mother, goddess she that everything's going to settle and I'll look snatched and fabulous, but at this, amazing thank you.

Speaker 2: 1:08

I'm five weeks in and I'm a little scared. I'm a little scared. I'm like oh my god, I didn't fuck my whole face up, that I, oh please, god, no, so we'll see. We've got some time before I can you know. And the thing that I've learned about plastic surgery, too, is if is, if it all gets fucked up, you deal with it. It is what it is, but I feel like it's one thing for your tits to get fucked up or your face to get fucked up, right.

Speaker 1: 1:36

But for me you look fresh. You look fresh. Yeah, you look good and fresh and young. So what's the problem?

Speaker 2: 1:45

Thank you, but it does look pretty weird. At this moment, you know, and I think it's a combination of different factors I'm a little overly snatched. So, once again, probably six months is where I can like really have a better idea of what everything is going to look like. Like my eyebrows are like way up here and my forehead is way back there, and yeah, and I've got like some kind of like weird little dimples, as everything is still like, you know, my whole face.

Speaker 1: 2:17

Spooling.

Speaker 2: 2:18

Yeah, it's very numb and the nose is like kind of bulbous and swollen still too, because it was five weeks ago and it was a 14-hour surgery, so bitch has got some healing to do. I'm just a little paranoid because X-Biz and AVN is right around the corner and fans can be brutal and yeah, and I guess I just don't want it to affect work. I don't want people to go like, oh, she really fucked up her face and maybe like fuck me because of it. The fear, the fear. So I'm hoping that won't happen. But you never know, I am human still and I do have fears.

Speaker 1: 3:05

Of course you have.

Speaker 2: 3:07

Yes, you never know. I am human still and I do have fears. Of course you have. Yes, but I will be going to AVN and X-Biz and I will pretend as though I'm the most confident bitch and that I wanted everything to look exactly the way that it is and everyone can suck my dick if they don't like it. And then I just pray and hope that within the year, Okay, that brings me to the first topic.

Speaker 1: 3:25

Perfect, yeah, how you deal with it. You mentioned it right now, but how you have the confidence, how you have learned to be like this, right?

Speaker 2: 3:37

Well, okay, so I think that actually a lot of younger individuals have influenced me on how to do this right. So, like I come from an era where everybody looked like identical cookie cutter biatches, right Like, all of us were like 5'6 to 5'9. We were all blonde, we all had double D tits, we all weighed from like 125 to like 135. It was that playboy, look right. And you could put like 10 of us bitches all together that were popular at that time Nikki Tyler, jenna Jameson, myself, adaira Michaels, all of us bitches like look the fucking same, right. I mean, we all were a little bit different, God bless, but we were cookie cutter, like you know, models, right, we all were kind of similar, all the same, right.

Speaker 2: 4:27

And so, thank God, things have changed over time and now we've got so much diversity, not just in porn, but like in camming and OnlyFans, and now there's, you know, black women, big women, small women, latino women, big asses, tiny asses, no boobs, big boobs, big hips, small hips, right, like there's everything and you know, and you can go the full spectrum, right.

Speaker 2: 4:55

So like what would be the opposite of a big titted blonde old woman, right? A skinny blonde blonde old woman, right, a skinny, blonde old woman right, so like maybe a really big black woman with no tits and a big ass, and I will find that woman and she is successful as fuck in making a ton of money right. And so what it's taught me is that, you know, I can look at a big black, beautiful, confident woman right, and some of the big black, beautiful women have got some of the most fuck you confidence right, and they wear it and they wear it well and men drop to their knees like wanting to kiss their ass. So I have to remember that. You know what I? What I think in my own mind is disillusionment, and I quite often think of the beautiful, confident, black, big black beautiful woman that just wears it with confident and wears, and everyone believes her, and so I use that as inspiration for my old, white, skinny bitch self.

Speaker 1: 6:09

Come on.

Speaker 2: 6:11

Thank God I'm skinny bitch again. I lost 10 pounds when I was in Turkey. But you get my point right. Like the opposite, you know you can use like other archetypes to give you confidence in times when you don't have really what it takes to match the situation. But I know I must find it mentally, emotionally, to show up as my best self with my fans, with the directors, to show it in pictures, and you know you just really have to like psych yourself out. You have to be the performer. You know you have to like step up with inside yourself and be like you know what I can cry after this is all done. Right now I have to put the performer on. The show must go on and this is the part that I have to play and this is what I'm playing today. Get into character and then use whatever you need as motivation, right.

Speaker 2: 7:05

So I remember when I first started modeling, too right, and one of my most annoying things that photographers used to tell me and you know now that I've been behind the camera for as long as I've been in front of the camera, damn near um, I get what they're, I get where they're coming from, like the eyes are. You know they, they show your soul and and you have to have your eyes be in the performance. But as a new model, you know, you'll have a photographer say, well, have your eyes smile. And you're like, what the fuck are you talking about? My eyes smile, right. And then, sure enough, I figured out what I needed to think to give my eyes that look. And so for me it's Winnie the Pooh or Tigger the Tiger, right?

Speaker 2: 7:56

The wonderful thing about Tiggers is Tiggers are wonderful things. Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs. They're bouncy, bouncy. Their tops are made out of rubber, their bottoms are made out of springs, their bouncy bouncy, bouncy, bouncy. Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, right. So when I think of that, my eyes light up, you know, and it's like. So you find, like these different inspirations for you as a entertainer, a performer, an actress, a model, whatever it is, and then you show up as that. And so, just over the years, I found a lot of little tricks of different things that you know help me get into character so that I can show up the way that I need to be.

Speaker 1: 8:34

So this brings me to the next point. So you told us there was a trick to feel confident and to show up. Did you learn it? This in the when you, when you, when you start in, I can't, I can't say the word, but you start as a register.

Speaker 2: 8:56

When I start as a what.

Speaker 1: 8:58

When you learn it to make movies and something.

Speaker 2: 9:02

Oh as an actor.

Speaker 2: 9:04

Yes, actually, no, I learned this before I was acting and I think, like my first memory of really understanding like the concept of you know, I am an entertainer and the show must go on right and to put on that like entertainer phase and you know, before I every night. But then they would have like featured dancers that would come to the strip club and they would be like Playboy models or porn stars or what have you. And I was a nobody. I started off before I had any credits. I went to like a feature dancing school and so I started out on something called a creature feature circuit, which meant it was like the ghetto low end feature dancing circuit, like the shit clubs that were crap and I slept in like a hundred dollar a week roach motels. I took the Greyhound bus to the yeah, totally ghetto.

Speaker 2: 10:24

I come from very, very humble beginnings and so when I was on this creature feature circuit, there was one particular booking that I had that was called the Red Barn and the Red Barn was like a porn theater, right. So guys would go in this porn theater and on the big screen they would watch porn movies and then they would all sit in the seats and like jerk off. And it was so stupid, right, so then behind the actual screen, they had like a small apartment or like a big room that you would stay at while you were doing the feature gig for that week, right? And so like, literally it was so dumb, like you would walk up these steps, like you would be in your room or whatever. Then you'd walk up these steps and then, bam, you're on stage and all these guys are like jerking off to their porn and you've got like a cowboy show, right. And they're like why did they stop the porn movie?

Speaker 2: 11:27

I was about ready to come and you're like yeehaw, like doing your show or whatever, right. And I had a fucking awful boyfriend when I first started, as many of us do, and we were fighting like in the room, and then I have to open up that door. I'm like hey, got my cowboy hat on, let's like in the room. And I'm like and then I have to open up that door. I'm like hey got my cowboy hat on, let's do this, you know.

Speaker 2: 11:49

And that's like my first memory of like the show must go on.

Speaker 2: 11:53

We are on, you know, and so, um, yeah, that showmanship is something that that is a huge part of me and my participation in this industry in every aspect from dancing to camming, to podcasting, to modeling, to filming to it just I am a performer, I am an entertainer and I must show up.

Speaker 2: 12:22

And you know, I come from an era of where, yeah, the fuck around and find out generation. Yeah, like we had contracts and there was no safe spaces and like you just had to show the fuck up. You know a lot of mafioso in that business and in that era where, with all the strip clubs and yeah, there just was like, yeah, bitch, you got to show up. And I mean, I can't even tell you how many times I was like barfing in a bucket off of the side of the stage and then like, hey, so it's just like part of like good work ethic as well, you know, I would say too, but, yeah, like I. Definitely, in the back of my mind, I'm always like the show must go on and you have to get into character. And it is one, two, three.

Speaker 1: 13:11

Now that's crazy. That's crazy Because a lot of girls of the new generation don't have this.

Speaker 2: 13:23

Yes, this is very true.

Speaker 1: 13:26

They don't have also the work ethic you know.

Speaker 2: 13:32

I do feel as though if you want longevity in this business, you've got to have a good work ethic. If you don't have a good work ethic, your time will be limited in this business, because people have. If you're going to be successful, you're going to be working with a lot of different companies and individuals and they have expectations for a professional to show up. And if a professional doesn't show up I mean, I've been around long enough to see what happens to those individuals and they don't have long term careers.

Speaker 2: 14:07

They might be really popular for a certain amount of time, but what goes up must come down and they don't ever come back up again. Right, because they they burned bridges, they were unprofessional. People don't want to give them a second chance. They don't want to work with them again. And maybe they did get a second chance because they still didn't have work ethic. They blew that second chance and then they're gone. And then they got to go marry some yo-yo or something, or yeah.

Speaker 1: 14:37

Okay, this was also. This was also. That was topic. They wasn't at at my, at my list, but they were really interesting, also for the new generation, also what's really interesting for the new generation. Let's talk about some paperwork, because I'm also connected with a lot of influencers and big influencers from Germany who are traveling to US shooting with a lot of guys to upload the content on OnlyFans and, for example, they had a date where they like to release and the guy released the video, the movies before. So let's talk a little bit about paperwork, because I'm 100% sure that you have enough paperwork and enough details in the paperwork that if you are working with someone, this doesn't happen to you. Is this correct? No, it does not.

Speaker 2: 15:51

So I want to start at the beginning. Hold on one second. I want to find a file of mine that we use. Yes, all right.

Speaker 1: 16:05

So when I do a content trade with other talent, the first thing that I like to do- so just to make it clear, a content trade is so because in German, in Germany, the models, if they like to shoot with someone, they only create the papers for OnlyFans, nothing more. All right, and first and foremost. Just that you know what we have to learn.

Speaker 2: 16:36

I know they do the same thing. They do the same thing in America, okay, and you know, when I was doing OnlyFans management for some of my older bitch girlfriends, right, and I spoke to them the way I'm going to, you know, speak to the for all of the young generations. I'm Generation X, so I'm a little blunt and I'm a little like, you know, right there. But there's a reason, because I really want you to understand my point, right? So I want to cut through the bullshit and just be honest and real, right. So, um, I would say to some of my older bitches, right, because all of us do, um, uh, we also all do full service sex work as well, right, and I'm like do you want, do you want, to be a free hooker? Right, let's just say it that way. Do you want to be a free hooker? Because, at the end of the day, right, if you're only getting OnlyFans paperwork, right Now, mind you, I've been doing this for 30 years, 30 plus years, 34, right, if you are only getting OnlyFans paperwork, then that means that that content, that scene that you shot, you'll never be able to use it anywhere else, right? So if OnlyFans, for some reason, I was just with one of the venture capitalist investment makers. That was part of the spec deal where OnlyFans was going to sell and was gonna go mainstream. Now you just sucked all that dick for nothing, right? You can't use that content ever again. Now me this bitch right.

Speaker 2: 18:01

I started shooting my own content in the 90s. If you look up, I have a whole vintage vault and I've had conversations. I personally know like I want clips, clips for sale, all the older, sorry, all of the platforms, right, and we've signed agreements that they understand that the paperwork that I have for that footage from that era in time I was fully compliant right, and so I don't have to have my content that I make now. I have to have in full compliance for right now, but my older footage I still got all the IDs, all of the 2257s and the releases, so I am able to sell all of that content. Everything I've ever made to this day I can resell it on. I want clips, many vids, clips or sale Brittanyandrewscom. I can sell it on corn hub, x, hub, sheer you. You know all of the tube sites, all of the clip sites, my Brittanyandrewscom, any other fan fan sites, loyal fans, fansleeve, all of them.

Speaker 2: 19:07

Why the fuck would you suck dick and not get paperwork and lose that footage. I understand if the only one you're on is OnlyFans, but what if something happens to OnlyFans? What if at a later time you decide, oh, I've got all this great content, I am ready to now finally put it on many vids. And you can't because they didn't do the paperwork? Why would you do all that work and not be able to have the ability to make continued mailbox checks for the rest of your fucking life from it? I'm still able to make money on content, the dick I sucked in 1990, I'm still making money off of Don't suck dick once, and only be able to make money off of it for, you know, one decade of your life. Why not suck dick once and have it? Give you money for the rest of your fucking life.

Speaker 1: 20:07

So I say it kind of tongue-in-cheek but I really do mean that though. So what kind of a contract a girl needs if she likes to upload it anywhere, and also in 20 years or something.

Speaker 2: 20:23

Okay. So the Free Speech Coalition right, so the FSC you can go on their website anywhere, and also in 20 years or something. Okay so, the free speech coalition right, so the fsc you can go on their website. They have got all of the forms that you can use, uh, for free, for talent, right there. That's what they're for. If you're not part of the free speech coalition, I highly recommend to uh become a member.

Speaker 2: 20:44

You don't have to be a member to use the paperwork, but they are the organization, the nonprofit organization, that does protect this industry, right, at least in the United States. So, but, you could use this. You might need to change some of the wording to fit your country. I'm not sure to have to actually look at the paperwork, but most of the all of the platforms I just said, right, they are going to want you to have 2257's model releases. How it's called? How it's called? Okay, it's called 2257, right? And so I'm going to go through each one of those and explain why you have to have it and why you have to have the IDs, because many times I go on set and everyone's got some shit paperwork that they've got from a friend of a friend and they're having you sign it and they don't even know what the fuck they're even signing. So I have given this glass on set many a times, right, and one of the things for me, right, I was actually in the business when some of these laws first came into place. So I went to a ton of business meetings and I was a part of. I was also a member of Free Speech Coalition. I was on the board back then and I used to do a lot of lobbying political lobbying for the business as well. So I am very well versed on all of this. And then also as a regular filmmaker you know, I've directed for Netflix. I did three years of film school. You have to have a lot of this paperwork for regular filmmaking as well. You learned this, right? Yes, I've all through experience, right. So from being there and experience, so let's go over it.

Speaker 2: 22:47

So what is 2257? It is an American federal law, right? But all of the platforms that I just mentioned are going to expect you to have this paperwork, whether you're in the United States or not. And what is to? To what does this particular document? What is it covering? What's the point of it? Right, and so the point of it is is that back in the eighties there was a very famous oh God, I had her name right on the top of my head and now I can't think of it. But there was a very famous oh God, I had her name right on the top of my head and now I can't think of it. But there was a very famous oh God, I had her name, now I can't think of it. There was a famous porn star, and it was found out that when she was shooting a bunch of this stuff, she was not of age.

Speaker 2: 23:35

So the 2257 is to make sure that the individual that you have in front of your camera is of legal age, right. And so when we do IDs on set and this is also extremely important, because all of these platforms are going to expect for you to have the IDs and you've got to do the IDs in a multitude of different ways, right? So there's something called bunny ear, and so you need at least one government official with a picture on it ID. So that's going to be a driver's license, a passport, some kind of state registered, some type of official government ID with a picture in it, right. And then the other one it typically is going to have to be like a social security card or whatever you have in your country, like some kind of country card or something or state. But they have to be like two government, a birth certificate, something of that nature, right?

Speaker 2: 24:39

So then you do your bunny ears and so you have to make sure when you're taking that picture that nothing is blurry. If you take a picture and you can't see all of the writing on the IDs, they will not accept it. So you do the bunny ears, that's one of them. Then you put the IDs down, then you do the pictures of the IDs, like on a countertop, a tabletop, of the front, and then you flip it over. Unless it's a passport there's not a background to a passport but if it's any kind of state ID that's got a back, then you flip it around and you take a picture of the back. And that goes with the 2257. And what's important on the 2257 is that you also list any other stage names that you've had, any other maiden names that you've had as well. It's in.

Speaker 1: 25:28

Germany. It's also on the ID card. It's behind.

Speaker 2: 25:34

Right. But on the actual paperwork, what you're writing down, it's really important in the written section of it that you've got any maiden names, that you've got any other stage names that you've ever used. That's an important aspect of the 2257. In case they're doing an investigation, they need to know this. So the 2257 is to make sure that nobody that is on your set is underage. So the IDs that you are doing along with the 2257 paperwork those two go hand in hand and quite often I get thrown a release and 2257, they take one picture of the ID. They don't have a government ID. They don't really understand what the law is behind it and what they need to have and what's important. So I'm really trying to highlight what's important on the paperwork and then also explaining why the IDs go with the 2257 and what the expectation of all of the platforms are. When you are going to be uploading content, they're gonna expect a 2257, they're gonna expect the IDs. They're gonna expect the bunny ears. They're gonna expect the front and the back of it. These are the important things, right? So that's the 22 ears. They're going to expect the front and the back of it. These are the important things, right? So that's the 2257, right? So now let's go into the release, right? So, just because you have 2257, that has nothing to do with giving release to actually be able to use this content. So this is also something you have to be very careful about when you're doing content, trade shoots and it's something that's you know I've spoken to a couple of lawyers about because it's how do you say it's illegal, but all of us are doing it and there needs to be a better way to address or handle it, right. So I'm just going to make you aware of what we're all doing and what's not correct about it, and I'm also going to tell you there's not a fucking thing you can do about it at this moment, but at least right, it's the COA cover your ass right. Or the COA cover your ass right, or CYA cover your ass right. So then quite often you get models that come to the shoot and they've got some raggedy ass piece of paper. That's some kind of fucked up model release, right? So what is the model release?

Speaker 2: 27:59

The model release typically is something that says I, the production, am working with this individual that's going to sign this paperwork and it gives me every right and license now known every digital AI and more or less, I own everything and thank you very much, sign this right. But we're supposed to be doing a collaboration right. It's not supposed to be that because I signed your paperwork, you own it, we're supposed to own it together. So I had some paperwork that was made up that I was using for a really long time that more or less said we're doing a collaboration, you own it, I own it right. So it's a collab. It's not like I have you sign this paperwork and now I own everything, and then I sign your paperwork and it says that you own everything Right. That's going to be disputable in court. So I had paperwork made up that said it was like a joint agreement. I've just had new paperwork made up and the lawyer said well, that's not legal. Somebody actually needs to own it, and then you can give them licensing rights and so forth and so on.

Speaker 2: 29:15

So I think, like within the world of collaborations, we really don't have anything at this moment that works really good, and most of the people are going to be showing up with paperwork that says hey, you know, sign this, I own everything Right, and just make sure that if you're signing something like that that you're also showing up with your own paperwork that says, hey, I own everything, because if you don't, and then you go and upload the paperwork that says, okay, you know, and this is what happens a lot right, especially, let's say, for me, because I know everything, just saying I kind of do. I know a lot right About the whole fucking thing from A to Z. That a lot of times when I'm doing collabs, the people I'm working with because I'm kind of controlling, once again, they let me kind of handle everything, so I do everything, but I do, of course, have their interests at mind. Even if they're kind of ignorant to what their interests are. I still want to make sure that they're protected. But a lot of people don't even know what they're doing and they could give a fuck less about your interests as the other person.

Speaker 2: 30:25

So you go onto their set and they're very organized, they got all the paperwork and you get copies of it.

Speaker 2: 30:31

And then you run off and you think, oh, I did everything. Good, right, I have the 2257. I've got the model release. But then when you go to upload it to Pornhub or wherever they're like, oh, you don't own the rights to this, you can't upload this. This is not your contract, this is you as the model, not the company. So the person that you signed that paperwork for they can upload it to Pornhub, but you can't. So you thought you did everything right because you got all the paperwork, you signed everything, but you didn't have your own paperwork. So you go to upload the paperwork and they're like, oh no, you know they can upload this, but you can't. You're only the model, you're not the producer. So if you're doing a content trade shoot, you know, make sure you either have collab paperwork or make sure that if if the other person is having you sign as the model, make sure it's generic paperwork that you can switch so that you've got yours for when you're uploading your content to the different platforms. And they got theirs, does that?

Speaker 2: 31:36

make sense when I can find something like this. Once again, free Speech Coalition has got very vague general model releases that you can use, and there's also, like I believe there's another one called, like, sophia's Ladder, that has got it digitized as well. But yeah, I mean you can find them all over online. Like I said, I just went to a lawyer and I just had all of my paperwork updated because I wanted to make sure that I was not allowing anybody to have my AI rights right so Will you share it with me? Yes, right, I paid a lot of fucking money for it. I might as well share it with others so that they can use it, but because, once again, the problem is Because there was a panel with Corey in Amsterdam last year.

Speaker 1: 32:33

Corey Silverstein.

Speaker 2: 32:34

Oh, he's the one that just did all my paperwork.

Speaker 1: 32:38

At this time last year in oh my God, it was. Yeah, it was last year, 2003, in Amsterdam, and there was a time when AI comes up. And then was this panel was also about AI and he was like, yeah, there wasn't any laws about this, you know, at this time.

Speaker 2: 33:03

So this is so interesting any laws about this, you know, at this time. So this is so interesting, yeah, and it's funny because I've known Corey since he was a young, budding young man before he was anybody in the business and I was very nice to him when he was shit faced on a boat at some party ages ago and he will, for he'll never, for never, forget my kindness. So I do work with him and quite a few other lawyers because I did a lot of political lobbying for the business, so I'm friends with, like almost all the lawyers. I've got a different lawyer working on something else for me right now, a different deal that I'm doing for my toy line, but yeah, so I wanted to make sure that, because one of the problems is, once again, when you're signing that other person's paperwork Right, you might want to X and A out when you're reading it, you know if it says any other forms of distribution now or otherwise, unknown, right, like, no, but like you can only have distribution rights for you know digital platforms and then you can just put something on there that says I keep all AI rights, right, and then just autograph it.

Speaker 2: 34:14

Now, I know that's not the legal way of doing things, at least if you, for some reason, that they ended up doing something that you're not in agreeance with, at least the paperwork that you have, and make sure you take a copy of that for their side, take a picture of it, you know, make sure you file in store which we can get into our next conversation.

Speaker 1: 34:36

Oh my God, this is also a really good point. Make a copy of it.

Speaker 2: 34:41

Make a copy of it, because then they can easily digitally take that off. And then, if I can say that you, you never did that off to the side I mean, it's so easy in today's era, right To like just kind of, that bitch didn't write that off to the side, and it's like, no, this is what I wrote and I've got a picture of it from that particular day. And then at least you've got something to bring to court or arbitration or whatever it is that you've got something that says, hey, I did not give permission for that, you owe me the fucking money, right, and that's what this all comes down to this is it's.

Speaker 1: 35:20

Yeah, it's really amazing because a lot of people in in us they are much, they are going much more in how you call it, they are more professional, like in in germany so, oh my god, there's a lot of bitches that are not professional here.

Speaker 2: 35:39

Oh my god, they're awful.

Speaker 1: 35:40

But but but listen, my, my friend, she was shooting with a lot of us guys and a lot of these guys, not only one was releasing on only fence before she did it. But they have, yeah, but they have an agreement that they, for example, uh, release at their first of january and they release it four days before, for example, like this that's not good.

Speaker 2: 36:16

I actually had a problem with my own office where they did something similar and I felt really bad and we've never done that again. But I truly do believe in being transparent with everybody and, if I make a mistake, being honest about it, not lying and then apologizing, and then our team like learning from the mistake Because I'm not perfect, my team is not perfect, and that was really fucked up. How many people are in your team right now? How many people are in your team right now? Well, I own multiple companies and some of them cross-pollinate between all the different companies that I own, but all together, I have around 30 employees.

Speaker 2: 36:57

Yeah, and I truly do believe not to be like the government and, to be honest, you know what, if we fuck up like woman to woman, I look at you like, oh, you know what my team fucked up and you might get crazy and pissed off. I can't, I have, I can't. There's your lane, is your lane and there's nothing I can do about your lane. All I can do is about my lane and, as a woman of integrity, I will always show up with the truth, however you handle. That truth I have no control over, but at least I know, on my side of the street I did what was right, right. And so you know some people. You know I'm not perfect.

Speaker 2: 37:47

I've fucked up things with all my different businesses, because none of us are perfect. I've pissed people off, but I've been honest. I've talked to my team. We don't make the same mistakes again, right? So you live and you learn and you, you know. But I truly do believe that it's better, no matter what, no matter how much the other person is going to freak out. At least I know that I was honest. I'm a woman of integrity. I did my best to confront the situation and to handle it in a professional manner and to try to learn from the situation. It's all you can do, right?

Speaker 1: 38:23

Yeah, it's like this. Okay, so you told us also in the last podcast about a little bit about content organization and content how you like to call it recycling or re-upload or whatever. Can you tell us first a little bit more, because I'm every day I'm in this situation Okay, I have anything on my iTunes library, I have anything on my iCloud, I have anything on an external hard disk, but, for example, the team I'm working with it's not able to upload it from their phones, so, for example, from Google Drive. So they have also a device from Apple to upload it from the Apple iCloud, from shared albums. So I try to manage it a little bit like this in Apple how you, as a profi-sign over 30 years, manage to organize all your content.

Speaker 2: 39:36

It's a nightmare. So I do have one employee. I do have one employee that that is. Their full-time job is just content management and we have a content management meeting every week with me and my staff right. So every Tuesday at 1.30, we have a content management meeting and it kind of goes over different aspects of content management, not just content organization, but content organization is absolutely a big part of it, and I am anal as fuck.

Speaker 2: 40:13

Oh my God, like one thing that can like as a boss. I'm pretty cool. I think that you know I've got very loyal employees I always have. I try to treat my people really, really well, but one thing that will make the boss fucking they do call me sometimes God. It's been a while since I've blown up. I almost forgot what the name of it is, but there's. I have a lot of Filipino employees and so they call me this volcano, like the most erupting volcano in the Philippines. They call me that. That's great, that I can't remember. It's been a while since I blew up, I guess. And then my manager for that portion of the team. She's very similar to me. So content management, all right.

Speaker 2: 40:54

So when I do a content trade shoot with other talent, you know, my team makes a link for that content trade shoot where everything from that content trade shoot will go into. And the way that we organize everything is we have an admin folder that's got all of the paperwork. That's got the 2257s, the model releases, the IDs, and then, if we're going to put, you know, std tests or whatever in it, you know, throughout the years I've added that sometimes, sometimes not, oh, and then of course we do always make sure that we also do the OnlyFans paperwork as well. So it is the out of all the paperwork that I do. We do the model release, we do the 2257, and then we do the IDs and then the OnlyFans paperwork.

Speaker 2: 41:52

Because, biatches sorry, I call everyone a biatch, biatches, and I say it with the most highest respect I'd like to think of myself as the top biatch, whatever, but yes, I call myself the biatch as well. So, just in case somebody might get offended, I'm not saying it to others, I say it by myself too. Anyhow, my point is is that in case a biatch decides to like cut her OnlyFans, she gets a boyfriend or she gets married, if you don't have that paperwork, you've got to take away that content, right?

Speaker 2: 42:23

So but, if you have that paperwork from OnlyFans, if she decides to get married, you can continue using it so you want, and it just makes dealing with OnlyFans a lot easier when you're using their own paperwork. So, however, a lot of people fill that paperwork out incorrectly. So for myself I have, I do everything through DocuSign and I send it to the talent that I'm working with like a couple of days before, and my office fills out like everything for me, so they don't fill out the wrong section because it's kind of backwards on the OnlyFans paperwork. So when you're doing it, just double check and make sure that you're doing it right, because it lends itself for you to think it's one way but it's the opposite way. So just make sure you're doing it the right way. So our admin folder, which has got all of our paperwork and ids, then we will have our um raw video footage, which is all the raw video footage, and then we will have oh my god, this is so interesting. Then we we will have the edited folder that's got all of our teasers. So we'll have, you know, safer work teaser, non-safer work teaser, the edited version with and without my watermark, and then we will have another folder that is all the photos that were taken on set. Then we will have another folder for any kind of like TikTok Instagram reels that we do on set. And then we'll have one more folder for all of the promo, because I've got a girl on my team that does like flyers and which is what we do with the release right. So within that folder, once again we've got the admin for the paperwork, we've got the video, all the raw video footage, then we've got the edited video footage, which has got the teasers, and then with and without watermark, and then we've got the photos, and then we've got the any kind of social media and then the promotional materials which is going to be like edited, you know, photos, flyers that we make to promote the scene.

Speaker 2: 44:25

And when I'm doing a content trade shoot, what I like to offer people for me being in control of everything, of allowing me to be the bitch that I am, you know I offer, I tell them how I do things first and foremost. If it doesn't work for them, then we don't do the content trade shoot. No hard feelings, I understand I'm very rigid in how I do stuff, but I've been doing it for so long. I know what works for me and a lot of people really appreciate and love working with me because I do it that way. But other people it doesn't work for them and it really bless your soul. I really. I totally get it and it's fine.

Speaker 2: 44:56

But a lot of people love working with me because I give them the raw footage they can make their own edit. But a lot of people don't have a full-time editor so they love the fact that I also let them use the edit that my editor makes. That's why we have one with a watermark, one without the watermark. We don't make them use the one with my watermark. So they've got the raw footage. If they want to make their own edit, we've got the raw photos. In case they want to do their own photo editing, we've got an edited version that doesn't have a watermark on it, and so that way, whoever I'm doing the trade with, they've got a lot of edited stuff that they can use for working with me and then unedited stuff if they prefer to do like their own, stylized on it some people, like you know, color correcting in a certain way or whatever. So that's how we organize, like the content trade shoot folders, which then we send the link to the other talent. We make the link before we even start the shoot. So, like I said, we send the paperwork out a couple of days before the shoot, so the paperwork is actually already done before we even step on set, right?

Speaker 2: 46:01

Then also, I want to remind you to always do a consent video before you do your actual content trade shoot as well. Right, go over all of your do's and don'ts, you know. Make sure that you say your legal name, your age, are you on drugs or alcohol? Are you doing this of your own free will? And then, because people will come back and say she crossed one of my boundaries, right, if you've got that content, if you've got that consent, and what I like to do is start at my feet, all right, do you like toe sucking? All right, you know.

Speaker 2: 46:36

And then I go up the body, right? Oh, do you like anything with knees? If you like anything with knees, you're kind of weird, but okay, let's just talk about knees, right. And then I just go through every body part. All right for the pussy, right? Do you like licking, rimming, anal, in, out fingers, like all the different variations? Then when I hit the belly button, I'm like don't do anything to my belly button Once again. If you do like anything about belly buttons, you're weird, all right. Then we go up to the boobs, right, and we go through each and everything and then up to you know, the mouth, do spitting, kissing right, hair pulling right, and then you go, you know.

Speaker 2: 47:08

So make sure you go through all of those different things and get it on video right. That's important just to keep you since we're talking about paperwork and legal things like that's just another thing to make sure that you're safe, right, you know. And it also makes sure that you really talk to your, to the people you're working with, to make sure that you don't accidentally, you know, I did an interview on my YouTube with the wonderful, amazing Piper Press and they didn't do this before a content trade shoot and she's spit on this guy and he freaked out completely, right, because they didn't go through that list of things. Right, and you don't want to make enemies in the business, right, and a good way to not make enemies is to make sure you're like going through that whole consent of like kind of going through every body part. So you really kind of know the talent that you're working with and what they like and what they don't like, right? Because while you're talking about those different things, also say hey, what do you like? Like, I have a huge foot fetish. You can suck on my toes as much as you want. So that always starts the conversation off. Nice, because I like to start at the feet. So just another way of just making sure that, like, while you're doing these content trades, that you're making sure that you're legally taking care of yourself in every like kind of which way.

Speaker 2: 48:28

So, but going back to content organization, right? So, like you said, you have an external hard drive, so I've got a lot of a lot of content. So I actually have like what's called a NAS RAID management system, where it's a bunch of hard drives that are all connected together, and then, because you always want to make sure that you're backing up your externals, so I have a system that automatically does that. So I have like four hard drives and it's a whole system that I do it on the computer, right? So I'm not actually even like touching my, my disk, like the disks are not connected to my computer, it's like connected to my router, and so it's a whole dashboard and I go in there and then what I do is then my G drive so I put all the raw content on my NAS.

Speaker 2: 49:16

But then only for content, trade shoots do I keep the raw footage on my G drive, because it's 4K, it's very fucking big, right. So for all the stuff I shoot that's without other talent, because I shoot a ton of solo stuff for all my custom videos and all that kind of stuff, but all my custom videos I try to make them longer so then I can resell them. I try to do the fan name early in the video so it's easy to cut out and then I can resell them. You know, I try to do like the fan name like early in the video so it's easy to cut out and then I can put that. On many vids I want clips, clips for sale, all of that, right. So I don't keep any of that raw footage on the G drive. I keep that only on my NAS because it takes up so much space.

Speaker 2: 50:00

But a lot of my team does like the edits and the flyers. They do all of their work within the G drive. So I have where my G drive is being mirrored on my NAS system. So everything that happens in my G drive automatically gets mirrored onto, like my backup system that I have, and then my backup system automatically has its own backup system.

Speaker 2: 50:31

So yeah, and the way that I keep everything organized with mostly how I like to keep most of my content organized is by genre right. So I have all of my lesbian content under lesbian content, all of my pegging content under pegging like that's my main way of organizing. All of my content is by genre right. And then, you know, even for my solo stuff, once again, we've got a folder and within that folder it's got the raw footage, it's got the photos that I took with it, it's got any kind of edited photos, any kind of promo that was put together for everything. And then we have an inventory number for everything, right? So every fan order has got an inventory number. So then we've got a spreadsheet that corresponds with the Google Drive, right? So on the spreadsheet we've got, then we've got on the spreadsheet, we've got the order number for everything that's in the G drive. So, like right now, today I'm doing a bunch of custom videos and so each one of those custom videos has got an order number.

Speaker 1: 51:51

And then on our so it's on the folder and the folder number also, and the number is also on the sheet, and on the sheet is the date. If it's a custom, it's a general, let me go through the sheet.

Speaker 2: 52:07

Let me go through the sheet Because, let me tell you something, right, I work with a lot of these platforms.

Speaker 1: 52:10

My God, it's so interesting Because, for example, German girls aren't organizing their content. I was learning it when I was working on Fan Central or Fan Central. Yeah, yeah yeahcentro, yeah, so I was learning it.

Speaker 2: 52:28

Most bitches don't do this right. But at the end of the day, if you are a professional and you want to make money from your content long term, you got to be able to give your content to other companies in a way that they can easily make money from it. If you're disorganized and you throw a fucking hard drive at anybody, you're not going to make as much money off of your content. And you know what they're going to do. They're going to say we need new content. We need new content because it's too fucking overwhelming for anybody to go through your old shit because it's so fucking disorganized. And you're like but I've got so much content I've already shot. And they're like they're not going to say it to you. But what they're saying behind the scenes in the team is like I'm not fucking going through that. We don't have the money to go through that. That's going to take our entire team fucking years to organize all of that shit. Like, no bitch, just go fucking shoot some more new content because we ain't got the time or money or resources to fucking organize all your shit.

Speaker 2: 53:28

When I come to a company, you know what. They love me because I'm just like a studio, right. I give them my content and it's organized in a way that right away, they can start making money off of it immediately and all these new platforms. I meet with the owners and I start working with them. You know, I just was working with kinky fans, which was kinkcom, and they work from all these spreadsheets that I give them easily. I work with a Clips for Sale. They do a lot of my my stuff for me because I'm so organized, right, and they all love me because, okay, so let me go through the spreadsheet, girlfriend, right, let me help you, you can no need to reinvent the wheel.

Speaker 2: 54:07

No need to reinvent the wheel when this bitch has had to, like, pull all of my extensions out 10 times over trying to figure this shit out. So okay, so like I wish I could just share the, the fricking um the spreadsheet. But because I don't work in it all that much, my, my office does, and we've added so many fucking things over the years, right, but it's like the inventory number, you know, then the genre, then we've got the title of the video, then we've got the description, then we've got the SEO, uh, that we use for it on all the different platforms. Then we've got the description, then we've got the SEO that we use for it on all the different platforms, then we've got, like, the amount of time, how long the fucking video is, then we've got the main price for the video. Then we've got the. Then we've got okay, is there other talent in it? Right?

Speaker 2: 55:01

And I'm very anal that that must be filled out. Is there yes or no? Right? So if it's no, then you put an A on the spreadsheet. You do not ever leave any fucking field on that goddamn spreadsheet empty, ever. Every freaking field. And everything must be capitalized correctly as well, and all of my spreadsheets must be in pastel colors. Anyways, moving along, only pinks and lavenders, bitch. Anyhow, did you start this spreadsheet by your own? Oh yeah, for all my different companies way back in the day, yeah, I started everything on my own right and so, my God, it's so much work, it's so much work, but it must be done. It must be done right, so, anywho. So then you have the list of the performers and then for each performer, then you've got, if anything's missing, right, because some of my content we're missing some. Did you have it?

Speaker 1: 55:57

pop up also at the spreadsheets that you just click on it.

Speaker 2: 56:00

Yeah, so you click on it and it takes you to the link in the G drive, right, so we put the links to everything, to the admin folder, to the ID, to the 225.

Speaker 1: 56:10

Also, that you can choose in one, for example, boy girl, girl girl or something like that. Does you just have to click on it?

Speaker 2: 56:19

Well, the good thing about spreadsheets is you can easily filter, right? So if you only want to see the boy-girl scenes, then you just filter the spreadsheet to the genre, right? Or you can filter it by any column that you have, right, so you could filter it by time. You could filter it by SEO words, anything that you have on your spreadsheet. You can filter it if you want to filter it by that one specific column.

Speaker 2: 56:43

So, and then we've got, you know when we posted it on. You know clips for sale. We've got the featured picture, which is really important, the promo flyers. We've got a column for every aspect of the job that we have done with that piece of content, how much money we've made on that piece of content. You know piece of content, how much money we've made on that piece of content, you know. So you know it just gets a long run. A lot like this fucking spreadsheet. Just, you know, over the years gets longer and longer as we work with more and more people and they need more and more stuff. We just continue to keep adding it. You know it gets longer. You know, width wise, as I continue to keep adding down. Those are each individual pieces of content that I shoot.

Speaker 1: 57:29

That's so amazing.

Speaker 2: 57:33

And then you've got a catalog right. And then you can become an old bitch like me and at one time, when I go to retire, I just sell the fucking catalog.

Speaker 1: 57:53

Yeah, me. And at one time when I go to retire, I just sell the fucking catalog. Yeah. So I have a friend of mine, she's doing it also, she's. She's really she loves sheets and she's organized like you and she's also she's working now for another company. She was, she was also working for Stan before I was bringing her to Stan and so she started in the other side of the industry. Now she's pregnant, now she's working for Base and helping them a little bit and she's also into the sheets and all of this and yeah.

Speaker 1: 58:14

Let me tell you something, right, if you're spending all, this time and effort making this content, hiring somebody to do this type of thing. Can hire somebody from india to do this. Yeah, she's also working with the one she. She was managing um, an agency also from stan. She was um there. She learned how to work with the filipinos and now she's working for her own again, for example, and now she also have in filipino. She's that, yeah.

Speaker 2: 58:43

She's now posting for her on her backup accounts and it's working really well, yeah, but let me just say this for the people that are listening, so they can really kind of get the numbers in their head Right. So you can get somebody that works on data entry which is what this is on any of the freelancing kind of websites from India or the Philippines. For this type of work, going rate not just what I charge, because I'm an awful miserable human being, but this is the going rate on any one of those type of sites is around three dollars an hour. So you could hire somebody to work for ten hours a week to work on organizing your content for thirty bucks a week.

Speaker 2: 59:26

Isn't that worth it for the amount of blood, sweat and tears so that you can professionally work with all these different platforms and really make the most money out of the content that you have worked so hard for. Like we invest, we spend more money than that on a fucking lip liner. I know, get the lip liner and get your shit together biatch, but I'm really serious. I mean, this is the difference between being successful and not being successful, of like really thinking of this like a business and learning how to make it a real business and how to make the most from don't work harder. Work smarter girls, right and boys and trans and everything in between aliens okay, I have to think about all this, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:00:27

so next question, because you mentioned it, that the lawyer helped you to create some contract about your AI dooble, for example. So let's go a little bit into AI. What do you think? So first, we start on social media. So when I'm scrolling on Instagram, there are a lot of reels. I can't. I don't know if it's real or it's AI. So for us, as real people, it goes harder and harder to create viral reels, for example. Reels, for example. Also, I was watching a documentary about that. The Internet is dying because, for example, instagram, there are a lot of bots who interact with each other, and not that people are interacting with each other again anymore. So what is what do you think of this situation in social media, in our industry that, for example, bots pushing everything and yeah, what do you think of all this?

Speaker 2: 1:01:41

Hmm, I have so many thoughts about all of this. I would say that's why it's really important to create a brand Right, because, throughout all of the fucking nonsense, a brand is a brand right. Like, I have been around for a long time and I've made a name for myself and so I will like fans know who I am, they know my personality and they like to come back to me for who I am, right. And you see, like all these Twitch performers that are making millions and why is that? You know they've got the it factor and the fans love them and they've created something that is a genuine experience. At least the fans think it's a genuine experience, right, and the fans will come back for more. So, you know, when it comes to bots, I've done a lot of bot stuff myself as well. I've owned bots, I've used bots. I very much get into bots because you have to If you want to get traffic to you. Bots are one aspect of something that can be utilized in this business to bring traffic.

Speaker 1: 1:02:57

How will you use bots in this business to get traffic?

Speaker 2: 1:03:01

Oh boy, so I've had a Reddit bot, I've had a Twitter bot, I've had, you know, quite a few different kinds of bots. I owned a Twitter farm for a while, and so I have used bots just to. I probably can't get into exactly how I used it, because I'm not sure the legalities.

Speaker 2: 1:03:27

But I, you know I definitely have used bots because it's something that you know. Every OnlyFans management company right now is definitely using bots on heavy rotational levels to drive traffic right. And so if I'm not going to be with a management company, if I'm going to manage my own company with my own people and do things on my own, I have to do the same things that all these OnlyFans management companies are doing, or otherwise I'm not going to be able to compete in the market. So, if they're using bots, I better learn how to use bots and use them too, and so I have. Currently, I'm not using any bots, but I will be again, Because it is an important way of driving traffic, you know, to your Instagram, or to your TikTok, or to your OF or wherever you're trying to drive traffic to.

Speaker 2: 1:04:32

Because, yes, you know it is really hard to get things to go viral, and I just feel like it's really important that you grow your tree right. It can't just be branding, it can't just be Instagram Like you've got to, like you got to have all your little branches out there trying to get your fans from this way, that way, this way, that way, this way, that way, this way. But I really feel like what's important is you're going to get lost in the sauce if you don't have a good brand right. So it's really important that you are creating that brand right. And how do you create that brand right? You know you really have to like once again, like, do the work, make sure that you're putting watermarks on things mentioning your. Don't change your fucking name. Figure out a name and stick with it.

Speaker 1: 1:05:30

Well, I was changing my name two times. It was the baddest thing I ever had done.

Speaker 2: 1:05:37

It was a bad thing.

Speaker 1: 1:05:39

Yeah, of course, I was really big 2012 in Germany and then I get a kid and I was thinking, oh, I have to delete anything. And I was deleting anything Not my Instagram, of course, but anything, anything. And I was deleting anything not my Instagram, of course, but anything else. I was deleting anything. I've changed my name. That's not me in the newspapers, that's not me in TV. I was putting anything out of to me TV, anything. I was crazy. I was upset with cleaning everything up.

Speaker 2: 1:06:06

Yeah, because you were. I'm not understandable. I completely understand that, um, but yeah, you already made my point. Yeah, it's not a good idea to change your name, because it can be, because once again, you're like having to start all over from scratch, right? So you want to make sure that you're doing everything you possibly can to make sure that your name gets on, gets out there and that your name is on everything and just being a marketing promotional whore in every which way.

Speaker 2: 1:06:35

Be creative, think about your marketing, all of those different things we have to. I was really good at really understanding branding from a pretty young age without really knowing it was branding. But yeah, the brand is really important. So think about a good name, stick to it, come up with a logo, put it on everything, watermark everything you know and find different opportunities to do interviews and podcasts and you know any kind of media that you possibly can to get that name out there, so that it gets the exposure that you need. So that you're not, so that you're not just lost in the middle of everything, because even with a great brand, it's still really hard to fucking stick out in this day and age where there's so much content to consume.

Speaker 1: 1:07:33

Yes, from where you learn it? All this, for example, all the content, organization or to work with Filipinos, for example, and the most important question, how? Because I remember you mentioned it in the last podcast. You have to train them by your own, and that's also the most important. So how do you train, or how do you learn to work with a team, to manage a team? Yeah, how was the way?

Speaker 2: 1:08:09

Sure, I dropped out of school when I was 14 years old. I don't even have a high school education, never went to college, and before, when I started all of this, there wasn't even the fucking internet, there was no YouTube, there was nothing. I read books, you know. I literally read books back in the day. I took classes, seminars and I just I taught myself everything, because you're real.

Speaker 2: 1:08:47

You have to be driven, ambitious, motivated, willing to get kicked off the fucking horse, eat fucking shit and then rub it off and go. Let's get back on that horse again. You have to be resilient. You have to have enough purpose, like to keep going. You know vision, big vision. You know, and kind of love what you're doing. You know, find the different aspects, like you're never going to love all of it. I do not love all of it, right, there's lots of it. I fucking hate Bookkeeping, but I do it.

Speaker 2: 1:09:23

I am so into my bookkeeping because it's the most important thing that you can fucking do is your bookkeeping, data analytics and bookkeeping because it's the most important thing that you can fucking do is your bookkeeping, data analytics and bookkeeping. Knowing your numbers, your finances and your data analytics are the most important things you can do and they neither one of those are my favorite things to do. But you know what? I do it all and I do it weekly and I always have right, because I was like you know what? I'm not going to be one of those bitches that makes a lot of money and then like oh yeah, well, I don't have any left because someone stole it. You do it by your own? Oh no, I have a whole team now, but I still am very involved. I do not neglect. I know exactly what's on my profit and loss sheets I have daily. I have daily WhatsApp groups that tell me what's going on in each one of my businesses, what my labor costs are, what my bottom line is. Right now it's the end of the year. I have a weekly finance meeting with my American bookkeeper, my Filipino bookkeeper, my managers. We go over the numbers every single week and then every quarterly, then yearly. So right now we're doing all the end of the year bookkeeping and I'm looking at all my different and we're doing the sales quotas and the KPIs for the team and all of the budgeting.

Speaker 2: 1:10:44

But once again, I didn't get there overnight. I started off with having a bookkeeper when I was like 23,. Right so, and I actually before a bookkeeper. I put everything into QuickBooks myself, and then I trained my mother how to put it into QuickBooks, and this was when I was watching QuickBook videos on VHS motherfucker, on VHS. I had QuickBooks. I might even still have those fucking QuickBooks videos on VHS in my garage, but that's how I started. Like I got a book, I watched it on VHS.

Speaker 1: 1:11:23

My God, all of this is so interesting.

Speaker 2: 1:11:26

It's so interesting, installed it on my computer and I just, you know, I made it a priority to make sure that I was very involved in my numbers. You know, back then nothing was digitized. You didn't have, you know, debit cards, so I kept all my receipts and then we had to, like, manually input every single cash receipt into QuickBooks. So things are so much easier nowadays, so, biatch, there is no excuse not to do it.

Speaker 2: 1:12:19

But this is called running a business right, and this is what you have to do. You have to be thinking about your marketing. What is the most important?

Speaker 1: 1:12:26

you have to document in your book papers Income, expenses Simple.

Speaker 2: 1:12:33

Income expenses upon all the platforms from and anything, and income expenses right. Just make it really simple. What's my income coming in from everywhere? What are my expenses going out? Yeah? Yes, this generation way more complicated than that and, god bless, I've got fucking spreadsheets with formulas and my but how?

Speaker 1: 1:12:58

you learn it to train your team, because it's also a learning process which part, for example? So, first of all, you're amazing. They are amazing. For example, I'm in your WhatsApp group with, I think, three or four girls. They are amazing. They are so friendly, they are so organized. Yes, for example, like for your scheduling, for example, then for managing your content, for all of these little things around this work, you've got to spend the time.

Speaker 2: 1:13:36

I'll give you a perfect example. Right, my team. We're in Asana now, right, but it took us a while to get the fuck into Asana, and so, and we're still trying to figure out how to completely integrate into Asana, and so, and we're still trying to figure out how to completely integrate into.

Speaker 1: 1:13:52

Asana. We're starting Asana but yeah, it wasn't working because we are just now two people and it was a little bit like yeah, we also can talk about things, you know, like this yeah, so I'll give a perfect example, right?

Speaker 2: 1:14:12

So for content trade shoots, we have a whole Asana workflow. But let me go back again about the training and I put it on, like my managers, like we need to do the Asana. Nobody was ever wanting to do it, you know. And then finally, okay, we put it into the schedule, right? So now we've got in two hours every week on Tuesday at 5 pm, me and my team we are working on Asana, right? So we get it scheduled. That's the first thing is to schedule the meetings and then to have those meetings regularly, right? So we started off with, you know, going through the tutorials. You know, every week we'd watch a tutorial. The whole team is there, you know, I have one person reading, Then the next person reads, you know, then we talk about it a little bit and then bye, see you next week, right? So training is just that, Like you know, just putting the time in the schedule, coming up with what the curriculum is for the training and then spending the time and then doing it consistently. Like you can't just train once, Like I do.

Speaker 2: 1:15:17

Like I said, the weekly finance meeting every Monday at 7. And then I have two management meetings before that and we go over everything. And then we have our content management one on Tuesday at 1.30. Then we have our sales meeting at 3. Then we have our Asana meeting at 5. And for the sales meeting, you know there's different things that we go over, you know every week, right, and sometimes it's me that's coming up with it, Sometimes it's my team leader, Sometimes it's my manager, Some you manager, and a lot of times it's like issues that we had throughout the week that there were some problems with it, Things that I think my team have got weaknesses on. That we need to bring to the forefront them, watch that and then we'll talk about it.

Speaker 2: 1:16:13

How do we implement it? We use ChatGPT all the time to watch the video, talk about it. All of us go into ChatGPT, do the appropriate prompt engineering and then what do we come up with? Who's got the best answer? Then let's keep that right. Like objections you know that's a perfect one, right? Like objections to sales, right? So, and then I have like an inspo WhatsApp for sales as well. It's like you know, if you want to stay on the team, you have to make your quotas. If you're not making your quotas, you're the fuck out and somebody else can come in that wants to make money. So the pressure is on right, and so I give them inspirational YouTube videos to watch on sales so that they can continue to grow and learn. And you know when. And then you, just you know, you just continue to fuck up, make mistakes, learn, schedule it, go over it, talk about it, Right?

Speaker 1: 1:17:02

And I get your point yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:17:04

And you grow. Right, and you grow.

Speaker 1: 1:17:07

You grow with it, yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:17:09

And you try really hard not to be a cunt. This is some of my. I just told my makeup artist this today, but it was for something else. You know, I've been in a 12-step program for a decade I'm sober and the fourth step talks about accountability, right, and I think that too many almost all of the individuals that I see that start doing teams. Some of their biggest mistakes are is they think that they just should know everything, that they don't have to train them, that they don't have to manage them, and then when everything is wrong, it's obviously their employees' fault. They never go.

Speaker 2: 1:17:57

What's my part in this? Sometimes it can be really difficult to see right, but quite often for myself, as somebody that's been practicing this for many years, I say, well, this is fucking common sense, right. Like everyone knows this, how could somebody not know that? It's fucking common sense, right? And then when I actually talk to my people, guess what? They don't know right. And then I feel like an asshole for being a bitch right, Because inevitably, especially when you're dealing with people from different countries, they definitely have a different common sense than you have.

Speaker 2: 1:18:31

Then I get to you know, humble myself, apologize if I was a bitch right, I try really hard not to be a bitch. You know I've been doing this long enough to like know the best thing I can do quite often is shut the fuck up. Ask questions before making assumptions, because those are my biggest issues is I make assumptions, I have expectations that can't be met, and what is my part in it? It's not just having the assumptions and the expectations, but once I find out that they're not able to make that expectation, I assume that they knew something and they didn't. Whose responsibility is it to teach them?

Speaker 1: 1:19:10

is it to teach?

Speaker 2: 1:19:10

them. You're right. If they're doing something wrong, it's not their fault. It's your fault because you have not trained them. Because at the end of the day, they're not. You might feel like it from the bottom of your soul. You're like these fucking people are morons. I've already told them this three times. How the fuck right? It's your responsibility as the manager to go back, go over it and train them again and respect the fact that humans are humans and they're going to make mistakes. Right, people have things going on in their own life. Right, people are dying. You know their dog their. Right. People are dying. You know their dog died. All these different things, like you know, be humble. Look at your part in it consistently, because you know what, at the end of the day, just bitching at people is never going to get things done right and it's going to demotivate your team, and your sales will show it.

Speaker 1: 1:20:06

Yeah, of course. Okay, that was a lot of information. I think we should. We should sell this podcast on YouTube. I know right, yeah, because nobody in the industry tell you, nobody tell you this. Yeah. So it's so interesting and it's so a learned curve.

Speaker 2: 1:20:33

For models to be successful, you should make a business out of it I've always said if you want to be successful, you've got to treat this like a business, because it is a business. This is a billion dollar business, but why you don't create something Go get your piece out of it. Go get your piece out of it, girl. Right, it's a billion dollar business. I want the next content creator whoever is listening to this go get your piece of the pie.

Speaker 1: 1:21:02

Why you don't create some learning videos out of it.

Speaker 2: 1:21:08

I do want to actually, I really do like, because it's so much worth the money.

Speaker 1: 1:21:15

You know there are a lot of. There are a lot of. There are a lot of people who are selling social media, learning videos and something for tons of money and you have so good information for all the models, so you know when I'm ready, when I'm ready to retire and do this.

Speaker 2: 1:21:32

I hope that some of the models that hear all the wonderful free information that I'm giving now will come back when I'm ready to have a solid plan of exactly how to expedite that. But at this moment I'm too busy, still being a content creator. So, but that is kind of my retirement plan, is to kind of go in that direction, cause I think that's what a lot of us do when we get older. We've got a lot of wisdom, a lot of experience, a lot of mistakes and, I think, especially women, we get mama bears and we really do want those that are under you know, younger than us, to have an easier time than we did. It's like you know what, if I already, like, fought the battles and I've cried the tears, you shouldn't have to as well.

Speaker 2: 1:22:21

Let me share what I have with you so that your journey is much easier. You know, and I want that. I truly do want that. You know I love this industry. It's given me a life beyond my wildest dreams and I love to be able to give back in any way that I possibly can. You know, and for right now it's just, you know, sharing my wisdom and knowledge for for free. I'll probably charge for it later, but today you get it for free.

Speaker 1: 1:22:50

for free. I'll probably charge for it later, but today you get it for free. I'm so thankful. Also, all the models who are listening to this podcast will be so thankful about it.

Speaker 2: 1:22:58

Trust me. Well, you know, feel free to reach out to me. You know, if anybody has any questions or anything that I can help you with. You know, obviously I'm a busy bitch.

Speaker 1: 1:23:06

I have two questions also after this podcast. Okay, wonderful.

Speaker 2: 1:23:13

Well, I'm definitely looking forward. I'm really hoping in 2025 that I can make it to my first ever Venus Berlin and then go to what is it called the TES conference or something like that.

Speaker 1: 1:23:24

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Tes in Prague. Hopefully I will meet there. You will be also in Amsterdam on X-Biz.

Speaker 2: 1:23:32

Yeah, I mean, I want to do that whole thing.

Speaker 1: 1:23:36

Amsterdam X-Biz was really successful last year.

Speaker 2: 1:23:41

Wonderful. Yes, so I'm hoping for this upcoming year to be able to do all that. I hope I will meet you in Prague, in Berlin. Yes, so we could do some like pegging content or something, girlfriend.

Speaker 1: 1:23:54

Come on, let's do it. You know, when I started to go on the conferences, when it was 2012,. Since this year, I was in Prague, I was in Barcelona, I was in Lisbon, I was in Amsterdam, I was in Barcelona, I was in Lisbon, I was in Amsterdam, I was in Berlin, I was everywhere. Also, one year, I was with Fence Fool in LA. Okay, and what was this? X3. Okay, yeah. So, I'm a long time off from this business and I also know I know the business also from the other side.

Speaker 1: 1:24:36

I also I was also the girl who started as the first german girl uh, in 2013, I think on my free camps. We don't have something like this in germany, so it was really cool, yeah, german, I'm like mostly.

Speaker 2: 1:24:51

I'm like I don't know like 60% German or something no yes, I have a whole book from my grandmother that's got my whole family history going back to like the 1700s in Germany.

Speaker 1: 1:25:04

Look, I was doing this, my heritage? I was doing it for my DNA, yes, and I'm a lot of. I'm 100% European, but the most of me are from Scandinavia.

Speaker 2: 1:25:19

Oh, interesting, okay, One day. I want to like now. Was Poland ever a part of Germany?

Speaker 1: 1:25:28

Oh my God, don't ask me this in this podcast.

Speaker 2: 1:25:33

I'll ask ChatGPT. It's fine, yeah, but actually now I think Gemini, the newest one from Google, is actually better than ChatGPT, but I'm kind of loyal at this moment. But ChatGPT just released Willow, and if you guys don't know anything about Willow, it's a new quantum chip. I highly recommend to do some research on it, because it will blow your mind and I might be almost willing to move to everything Google after that, because I think that they're working with alien technology. Willow yes, because I think that they're working with alien technology. Yes, willow Check out some YouTube videos on it. It's insane. Also, you have to learn to work with AI. I use AI for everything, yeah, so I'm constantly watching AI videos. Oh really, oh, yeah, all the time. Yeah, I always read like 20 books at one time, so I'm always like listening to. I have a book about scaling up my business right now that I'm listening to. Like I always have business books, spiritual books, marketing, branding books, sales books. I know it was.

Speaker 1: 1:26:41

I know it was a lot of information for us and a lot of questions for you, but.

Speaker 2: 1:26:59

I'm so thankful that you helped us a lot and you know what. The best place to start where, where you're at? Oh, okay, really good, start where you're at Start, where you're at Start off small Baby steps. Whatever you can manage and handle, start there.

Speaker 1: 1:27:19

Thank you so much. I hope we will meet next year.

Speaker 2: 1:27:23

Yes, us and our penises.

Speaker 1: 1:27:27

Bye, bye-bye, stay here with me.