Speaker 1: 0:11

Welcome to another episode from the Sisters in Cash podcast. This podcast is featured by ModelSearchercom, your adult-friendly social media platform for based and fames.

Speaker 2: 0:28

today as my guest lucy, hello, lucy, just lucy yes, I changed my stage name uh, I think four years ago from lucy care to just lucy and now I'm just Lucy.

Speaker 1: 0:43

Yes, I call myself. So Lucy is also from Germany, guys, and I'm. It's an honor for me to have her in my podcast. So, yeah, welcome Lucy, just Lucy. Oh, I always have okay, okay, okay so okay, pleasure to meet you.

Speaker 2: 1:06

So I think we know each other for many years now.

Speaker 1: 1:08

But, yes, never met, we never met we never, we never met, we never met. Um, okay, just lucy. So that brings me to the first point, why you changed your stage name okay, it's uh, it has a really sad reason.

Speaker 2: 1:28

Um, I started my business with a bit with a business partner 10 years ago and, uh, yeah, we had a lot of trouble together and I think it was time for me to to change myself and I had some problems with him. Yeah, he, he was like someone who he doesn't want to, wanted to help me. He would, he would like to control me, and that was a really really um, not what I think a woman in business should do.

Speaker 2: 2:05

So it's always the same in our business, so yeah, for me it was time to go, and so I quitted everything my company with this business partner and started new. Yes, and that's the reason why I'm only just Lucy anymore yeah, yeah, so also you lost your big Instagram account, right?

Speaker 2: 2:25

yes, yes, I lost my all my social media accounts, with over, I think, two million followers on everything. I had a really big Instagram account, facebook, youtube. I was also very, very often on YouTube, yeah, and I uh because I quitted the company and the company, uh, had all the the brand rights, so I lost aim. Yes, that's the reason why.

Speaker 1: 2:52

Okay, but. But.

Speaker 2: 2:53

But you learn it from this yes, I learned a lot, I really have to say, in the last four years I I learned a lot about business. Um, I became, I became an adult in the business and now I know some facts, some, some tricks, uh, that that should help me in in the future and we have to.

Speaker 1: 3:15

We have to talk about these tricks yeah, you always uh, should, uh.

Speaker 2: 3:22

You should never start a business with someone you don't trust first. Second, you should never let someone control you and trust someone to control you. This is something I really learned. And, of course, don't never, ever um make, make your brand um with someone together, only if you, if you want to have the copyrights and everything, just do it on your own all on your name, all on your own name and not on someone else. Yes, so if you quit with someone, you always have your own marks.

Speaker 1: 4:05

Yes, that's something I really learned. I know a little bit I think a lot of German people know a little bit of the story and I think it's so sad because you was working so hard yes, for your accounts, and for social media and you lost anything, and then you started from zero yes, I was really on zero.

Speaker 2: 4:27

I I had to to rebuy my, my car to start my new company. Wow, I was really.

Speaker 2: 4:36

I was really zero at the point. It was a really hard decision to do it. I was also struggling if I should be in the industry or not. Should I quit everything or should I restart myself? Yes, and I think it was a very good decision, because I don't. It was nothing that has to do with the industry. It has. It had something to do with a with a business partner I had. So I love the job I'm doing. I love the industry. I really enjoy being in there. But, yeah, it was some circumstances that made me yeah, made me make some bad decisions.

Speaker 1: 5:17

So I wanted to do it new, all by my own yeah, um, I think it was really hard to send, as you, because, um, for the guys from us, just lucy is one of the famous models in germany and if you have to start from zero again and you lost all your social media, all your, all your home pages, whatever, this is really really hard. And if you can't use your old stage name again, yes, so I became famous in Germany.

Speaker 2: 5:58

I had a lot of partnerships with youtubers and stuff like that. So many people knew me on the street and they always they always, uh called me lucy cat, because some people really don't know it by now. And it's really hard because you get confronted with it every day, because so many people don't know that I changed my stage name, that I rebuilt myself and, yeah, it's, it's really hard sometimes, but it's it's really fun. Also because some people didn't know me by Lucy Cat, so they only know that the just Lucy, and this is also something that I'm very proud of that some people only know the new, just Lucy.

Speaker 1: 6:41

I think, yeah, you can be really proud of it, because there was a big, big company behind all of them, right, who was pushing the old Lucy cat.

Speaker 2: 6:52

Yes, and by now they are always pushing them. So it's, it's. It's very hard to be one little girl against everything, or?

Speaker 1: 7:00

everyone, everyone. So just to make it clear they, they they the old stage name and the homepages are still active. Right, they're still active. Yes, with all, but you are not behind it any anymore.

Speaker 2: 7:14

Yes, with old content it gets refurbished and uh posted again, again, again, again and uh. So many people, um, yeah, are getting how to say, yeah, I fucked up because, uh, they always think I'm not answering. But it's not me, because it's not my profile, I can't answer. I don't have any password for any of the old accounts, so it's not me, so I'm I'm not the troublemaker.

Speaker 1: 7:44

I know hopefully in the future all your old fans will know the story behind it and will know that it's not you anymore on these profiles so I'm very, I'm very, I'm very, I'm very excited.

Speaker 2: 8:03

You're excited about it.

Speaker 1: 8:04

I'm very excited. You're excited about it.

Speaker 2: 8:06

I'm very excited to go to the Venus because the last four years I've not been there because of Corona and stuff like that, because of the pandemic and yeah, I will be there this year again and I think so many people. I will meet you there, because I will be there and don't know that I changed my stage name, so I'm I'm very happy, thank, you that you invited me to your home.

Speaker 1: 8:31

What the fuck this was alexa, guys.

Speaker 2: 8:36

Yes, so I'm very happy to uh to give some autographs with my new autograph card with only just Lucy in front. Oh my God.

Speaker 1: 8:49

So we will meet in Berlin too. I'm so happy about it and, yeah, I can't wait to meet you there. Maybe we can take a walk together, I hope so. At the Venus too. This could be nice yeah, yeah, okay, um, so you started um your business with your new name, so you also have to start your own marketing, right?

Speaker 2: 9:17

yes, that's true yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 9:20

So I think the most interesting question in this time in the industry is from where do you bring your traffic? What's the best traffic source for you?

Speaker 2: 9:36

I have many traffic sources. I think Tell us. For me, it's always social media, because I have a large following. In the last four years, I have over 20, 130,000 followers on my Instagram. That's very good, I think, because Instagram is not so easy anymore If I think about how I grew in the last 10 years and how it is now. It's. It's very difficult today, but it's still possible.

Speaker 2: 10:07

I'm not, I'm not a real girl. I I really enjoy making photos and posting photos, but Instagram is not so happy with it, so I'm not growing as fast as I could, but I I'm always. I mean, I'm just Lucy now. So I, I do the stuff I really enjoy, enjoy and I'm not, I'm not, afraid of losing some people. I really like to to share some pics. Yeah, I'm also using, of course, threads and I'm also using TikTok. I think going live on TikTok is something that really helped me growing. So I I had a lot yes, yes, of course. Uh, always when I, when I post the new tiktok, I also go live to um, yeah, to help the, the, the videos go viral. It really helped me a lot when I, when I post at around 11 o'clock in the morning and uh, going this is interesting.

Speaker 1: 11:03

This is really interesting, and really going live there.

Speaker 2: 11:07

It really helps me to grow and, uh, this is the, the traffic I get from there. I I go to, I give to instagram, because you can share on on tiktok any pornographic links or something like this, um and everything will uh be compromised in inside a Telegram chat. So I have my own Telegram group and this is very friendly for us to use. So everything from all my social media accounts are going to Instagram and from Instagram it's directed to Telegram, yes, to my Telegram group, and from there I can post any link I want.

Speaker 2: 11:44

So that's something I really use it. It helps me a lot. Um, I'm also doing, um, some of tube marketing. I'm on x videos. I think it's the largest tube. X videos is very, very, very good for some traffic. I also use porn hub and exam stuff. These are the three, um, yeah, the three, the the three, the german three um, these, um, are the uh, the only tubes I use and I post their video every two or three months and I think I, yeah, I gain a lot of viewers there.

Speaker 2: 12:25

I can also white label it inside of my video. I post my link inside so some people will join. This is something that really helps me. And, of course, I'm also a cam girl, so I'm on strip chat and I'm using my own domains. I always use white labels, so I'm exclusive my own domains. I always use white labels, so I'm exclusive on Fan Central.

Speaker 2: 12:47

This is my paid platform where I'm posting all the good stuff some selfies, some videos with a partner and some other stuff. Yeah, and this is my main channel Fan Central. Yes, and I'm also, how I said, I'm a cam girl. So when I'm online on StripChat, I also get a lot of traffic and I direct this directly to my Fan Central page. Yeah, and this is, I think, all the traffic sources I'm using. Sometimes I'm doing also Red GIFs, something I sometimes use. Also, reddit I sometimes use I should more but yeah, if you have so many platforms, it's not that easy to have an overview of everything, so this is something I should do more, but I think it's a very good traffic source also. Yes, this is mainly the things I do.

Speaker 1: 13:48

Really really, really nice Because, yeah, sometimes it's really hard, you don't have a banner or something on Instagram. All your Instagram is really safe and there's nothing wrong because you can check it. It's, I think, also, yeah, a new feature.

Speaker 2: 14:09

you can check your account. I had some problems the last two years so by now I'm completely clean and I'm I will not post some bad links because I'm very happy because two years of not having I also.

Speaker 1: 14:22

I fix it um fixed it, I was also working you know for Fan Central and working with a lot of models and we fixed it some, yeah, shadow bands, Because I was doing tons of research really. So, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2: 14:42

By now I'm clean. I hope it will stay like this.

Speaker 1: 14:45

Yeah, sometimes you have, you have to, um, you have to clean also your archive, your story archive, and don't link to other models, because if a model is banned and you tag her all the time or whatever, um, you will get a bun too. So also, it's sometimes I'm but I'm really paranoid about Instagram what you write in messages. It's really important. You have to take really care, or with how, with who you are communicating. Yeah, that's really really, really important. And also I think yeah, yeah, yeah, and also, if you like, and also I think yeah, yeah, yeah, and also, if you like, to change a little bit the algorithm, because I was changing from the adult model to fitness who are you following, who are your close friends, and, and, and, and. So I turn it, for example, I turn it the story archive off. So if you post something and there's something wrong with it, whatever, a hashtag or yeah, you don't have the problem anymore.

Speaker 1: 15:54

Also, a lot of big girls started also in this times to clean their account again, again, again again. So if some reels don't have a lot of views or there's something risky, they post it and they delete it. So sometimes you see accounts they don't have also really big accounts.

Speaker 2: 16:14

They don't have many, many, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that also.

Speaker 1: 16:18

there comes another thing up. I think this is really interesting because I tried it. So, okay, this guys they are not my, they don't feature my podcast, but I think, um, it's worth to mention it because, yeah, I see it on a lot of big girls, really big girls, with millions from the US, and it's called Get All my Links. I think it's Get All my Links. Yes, and this if you have a subscription, it's, I think, $50 per month, subscription, it's, I think, 50 per month, um, and you have an instagram protection shield, for example, for only fans so you can post a link.

Speaker 1: 17:05

Oh, that's, that's yeah, you can post the link and without some double clicks it goes directly to only fans but?

Speaker 2: 17:14

but how is it working? It's an algorithm that.

Speaker 1: 17:18

No, it has some. It's like in Shield. It's really like in Shield. You can check it out. I think it's also really simple. Get all my links. Get all my links. That's very interesting. Oh my god. Also, you have so good statistics in it. It's fucking freaky. My God, Also, you have so good statistics in it. It's fucking freaky. You can make a really cool landing page where it shows your discount, where it shows your location it's nearly to the location from the user where it shows a lot of things, and you have so cool statistics in it. It really sounds interesting.

Speaker 1: 17:58

Yeah, I need to check it. You have to check because all the US models the really big link it with this. You can use your domain or they'll get all my links, domain whatever With one click to OnlyFans. And I also check it on two little accounts and it's safe.

Speaker 2: 18:16

Perfect, I need to do it yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 18:22

You have to check it. You really have to check it. Um, did you started a new youtube again?

Speaker 2: 18:28

uh, yes, I started a new youtube account, I think four years ago, but I'm not that active. I I think I made it for one year just to um come into the minds of the people again that I'm not Lucy Cat anymore, I'm just Lucy now, um, yeah, but it's also a little bit. It sleeps a little bit. It sleeps a little bit. Yeah, I should do a little bit more, but because I'm not.

Speaker 1: 18:55

I think in this times and I know a lot of models it's an add-on.

Speaker 2: 19:02

You can do it because you want to have some reach, but it's nothing you need because you want money, because most of all the accounts from the industry are not monetized. Monetized, yes.

Speaker 1: 19:16

But a lot of girls, for example mary d, or yeah, they started and she started with, and try on yes, youtube yes, yes, so you can show something nice you can show in. I don't call um transparent, for example, bikini. You just have to put in disclaimer before the video. That's only about the clothes and fashion haul or whatever. And yeah, also, there's a way, good way, to bring traffic yes, also good idea.

Speaker 2: 19:48

Yes, yeah, yeah, it's really. I check it out everything. I've seen it on many girls.

Speaker 1: 19:53

Yes, yes, yes, oh, I'm God, I lost her name. There's a girl. She has red hair. She's so big. I lost her name and she's really famous in this try-on hauls on YouTube. I don't know if she has red hair. She's also on Twitch. Oh, amorant, yay, yeah, she's also so big, yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:14

Yes, yeah, what? Yeah, she's also so big yeah.

Speaker 1: 20:16

Yes, yeah. What do you think about Twitch marketing or something?

Speaker 2: 20:20

I've never been on Twitch, but I think it's working. I know many girls that also have a Twitch account and it's working good. I think it's very good to become famous and to get to know some new people that are maybe willing to join the channels. I think it's a good idea. But for me, because I'm not a big gamer I'm not that big in gaming.

Speaker 1: 20:44

But you can do a bikini stream there or something, or chatting stream.

Speaker 2: 20:47

Yes, or hot tub like this, or hot tub streams, but I think if you have so many social medias, it's very you have to focus on one thing, because otherwise you will go crazy, or two, TikTok and Instagram. Yes, same for me, same for me Okay.

Speaker 1: 21:07

Also, there's one thing more. So I tried a lot the last time since November, last November modelsearchercom. So modelsearcher is a traffic page where you can get traffic, where you can post for free and you get traffic for free. The best is to link for the girls who have OnlyFans to link with free trial links to their OnlyFans or, in your case, you can link directly to Fan Central. It's working really, really, really well. I also get, if I post something, tons on comments and tons of likes under my postings, and the more you post, the more you go up with your profile. Also, you can track really well on this page and everything's for free. And I have so many users it's like you have, um, so many searching machines, yeah, and and because I always asking the subscribers, hey, where do you find my profile? And, um, they comes from the searching machines and this is from model searcher.

Speaker 1: 22:20

Yes, and everything is so free for free how often do you post that okay, you have to post every day. I would say two times per day is the best, so you can post or say for um no say for work.

Speaker 1: 22:35

I will post save for work. I think you can also post nude, but I think the best is save for work, because I know when I post I get an option. This pic is save for work and this is not save for work. Yeah, so you can try it out. It's traffic for free, I'm sure I will.

Speaker 1: 22:55

Yeah yeah yeah, it's really, really, really cool. And yeah, also for pages like for follow for free, like fan central or, for example, for basis, also follow for free platform, um they have a pay feed, they have um it helps a lot to to get new people yes, correct and maybe make them subscribers.

Speaker 1: 23:18

Yes, and Model Searcher has tons of SEO-optimized pages, yes, so it works really, really, really, really best. Yeah, I also, for example, so I found out. So, in my case, girls, really important for you In my case I have a, a podcast, I have my social media, I have family or whatever so, um, I don't have the time to have, for example, and I don't have the traffic, for example, for five fan platforms. So normally I was never working with an agency, because for me makes no sense to work with an agency.

Speaker 2: 23:56

I'm also never worked with agencies and I'm I'm not a fan of it because but listen, listen, now comes the best.

Speaker 1: 24:06

There is an agency and I'm not featured by them. There's an agency who just need your content. They use another name of you, just use your content. They bring that the traffic from their babe pages to their, to your profile. So you just get the money, the money and you have to do nothing. Just give them some old content or whatever. I gave them my old content, my really old shows. Oh my God, really, really, really old. And these guys make on free for profiles with another name. My name is called Bermaria.

Speaker 2: 24:47

That's really funny.

Speaker 1: 24:48

They make really good money, but I have to tell you you don't get a lot of percent because, yeah, you just this is nothing I would ever do again.

Speaker 2: 24:59

I'm my own copyright. I always had my own copyright, so I would never give content away to someone else. It's all mine. So I can do it when I quit the job. I don't know when, but this is something I can do when I when I quit the job, but not when I'm inside the industry.

Speaker 1: 25:20

I know, but I can tell you I was quitting the job. Yeah, I know, and I never get anything out of the internet. Also, you have a contract, for example, just with the agency. It's just an example. Also, you have the option to go on the profile, so you have to verify your profiles if you like to close the profiles.

Speaker 2: 25:44

you close them by your own you can always say see what they're making on money, and blah, blah, blah, blah blah yeah, but for me it would never be an option, but it could be an option if you, if you could, maybe for for some girls.

Speaker 1: 25:57

that is why I mention it, because, yeah, some girls like to have the content, yeah, and don't like to sell the content, for example, for tubes or something yeah just, and they make high prices.

Speaker 2: 26:13

They make high prices when they chat, when they're not that famous and they don't get their own traffic. It's maybe a little bit yeah.

Speaker 1: 26:22

In your case it's not good, because you're too famous for this. I know, I know, yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:30

But for smaller girls I think it could be a nice idea.

Speaker 1: 26:34

Yes, of course it is To make maybe 500,000 or 2 or 2000 per month for doing nothing. Yeah, this girl. It's when they don't have a big social media. It's this is for for girls if they don't have social media or something like this.

Speaker 2: 26:50

It's yeah or they don't want to uh, yeah, they don't have the time or they don't want to be. That public as a public figure could be a good idea to just sell the content and, yeah, make make someone else using it so good.

Speaker 1: 27:06

If you, if you, if you like to get some help with this agency, reach out to me. Okay now. Now we come to the next thing, because you are a pro in the adult business what do you think about affiliate marketing?

Speaker 2: 27:23

Affiliate marketing is something I do since I've started, so I was always using affiliate marketing with all the platforms I worked with. I think it's very, very, very, very important for all the girls to use it, because you have passive income and if you ever break your leg or break some bones or you're sick only God knows what can happen to people yeah, it's really good to have a passive income stream that you can always trust on and always know that the money is coming in without you doing any content. I think it's very, very important. It's. It's for me, it's something like a security net that that really helps me when I'm sick, that I know, okay, I can pay my bills and I don't have to be afraid of not having all my fixed costs or something.

Speaker 1: 28:18

Can you give us some examples that the girls can understand it better?

Speaker 2: 28:22

Yes. So affiliate marketing is when you bring new people to a platform and you get a share of the money the people are giving out or loading up, maybe change it into tokens and you get a mostly between 20 25 percent of the sales that the people are doing. So, um, if I, if I give my traffic to a platform, um, and yeah, maybe it's, it's 100 percent. And um, yeah, when, when someone is giving 100 euros to the platform, I get 20%. For example, if you have 20% share, you get $20 from this $100. And yeah, if you have many people joining the platforms, you get a really good income stream. And also, the people don't have to. If the platform is very big and very famous and you are not online, the people can spend their money on other girls, but you are getting paid while you're not. Something that always worked. It works 24 hours. I think that's very important. So you, you will get your your income by sleeping. It's something I really enjoy um.

Speaker 1: 29:39

So, for example, just for the models um, I think the best affiliate program right now are on strip chat, because I'm on strip yes, I'm also using it.

Speaker 2: 29:52

Um, I think for me, chem platforms always works best because people are spending a lot of money on cam sites and not that much on on video sites. People are more likely to to give their their money away on cam sites, so I think cam sites are always a very good idea for for affiliate. For me it it works because I'm on the platform, so. So, if I'm going online, I just post a link where I'm online and there is a little code inside where it tracks to my account. So, yeah, for me it helps. And also, when I'm not online, people are spending money because I bring them to the platform. Yeah, people are really enjoying the platforms more than me, but for me it's okay because I get a share. Yeah, and it's something I really like to do. I did it for all the platforms I worked with, so I have a good passive income stream that really makes me happy.

Speaker 1: 30:49

I think also this is the key to have a passive income stream right.

Speaker 2: 30:53

Yes, of course. I would say to every girl just use it. You have to try it. Just bring your users when you are online in the cam. You can bring them there and from there they can spend their money wherever they want, but of course it's always perfect when they spend it for you yeah, I started, for example, to work with 4Base.

Speaker 1: 31:14

They have all the features, all the features, all the features and they have a really, really, really good affiliate program. Really interesting for me because, yeah, I was long time an exclusive cam girl and they had their advertisement in TV and they have really cool partners who they are working with and also they have paypal. So, in a german fan platform. Yeah, who have paypal is really and all on all and all appointments.

Speaker 1: 31:53

Yes, it's really really important. And they have all features. They have voice messages, they have nearly anything and if I have some problems I can reach out to them and anything is fixed. Um, yeah, that's about the affiliate marketing. I'm really happy because right now I try it science free weeks. They're from four base, the affiliate marketing. It works really really really well, but they are also growing. Yeah and yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:20

Yeah, and affiliate is something that is not very linear. So if you start you need maybe one year that it's going really up.

Speaker 1: 32:30

but then it goes, it really explodes.

Speaker 2: 32:33

So you have to be a little bit geduldig.

Speaker 1: 32:36

Geduldig, you have to be patient. You have to be patient. Little bit geduldig, you have to be patient.

Speaker 2: 32:41

You have to be patient to trust the process, but it will pay off on the end of the day. So you need maybe one year, but in that year you can make $1,000, $2,000 every day, every week, every month, just by doing nothing.

Speaker 1: 32:59

Yeah, also about the passive income. So more and more models in our industry, especially the US, once started with their own businesses. So also Maris Michaels. She started now with sex work ceo, for a sample. Or I started, or I started with yeah, or I started with my podcast, with my little uh business niche podcast, and now and now she also start what I think is so, so, so cool, because I was searching for this with um gpts. It's an um yeah open.

Speaker 1: 33:45

It's an ai that what is it doing for adults? For adults, you can use it for, for example, um, you can write scripts, you can clip descriptions. Oh my god, this is so cool, that's very cool and hello, really good clip description. You can use it for anything. I'm really. I use it because when I have to describe a clip, clip it's, it's for me.

Speaker 2: 34:16

It's something that is really out of my heart. It really is easy for me to write some titles and descriptions. I don't know why, but I think it's because I do.

Speaker 1: 34:27

A friend of me have the same. She's so cool to make clips.

Speaker 2: 34:31

I really enjoy doing it, so it's nothing really strange Okay.

Speaker 1: 34:34

I will call you for my next clip. Yeah you can do, of course, Of course, I will.

Speaker 2: 34:43

It's something I really enjoy, but I think it's a really cool feature um for for many girls and that will help a lot of people to yeah, to, to make to make.

Speaker 1: 34:52

Trust me, I tried tons of gpt things, but it it's not working without it. Yeah, adult business yes, yeah, yeah so I'm so happy that that she started it and I think there's really good business, girl, I think she's she's a genius she's a genius. Yeah, she's a genius, also her youtube you can also, if I started, when I started on Fan Central, I was learning from her videos. I was learning from her shooting outlines.

Speaker 1: 35:27

Yeah, from her things. She had also a little group on Instagram for close friends where she put her secrets, her shooting outlines. Oh my God, that was helping me a lot. I'm so happy Also what she started, sex work ceo.

Speaker 2: 35:43

It's amazing to help girls so shout out to melrose, michaels shout out to melrose michaels.

Speaker 1: 35:52

Hopefully I have her. I have um. I had an episode with her before. She's so cool. Hopefully I will have an episode with her again next year.

Speaker 2: 36:04

I hope so, but I'm yeah but I think it will. It will happen, I'm sure, yeah okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 36:10

This brings me also to the next point. So, um, because I know you are really hard hardworking business woman and sometimes yes, sometimes not that much, but, yes, mostly I'm I'm hardworking, that's true yeah, come on, you started from zero again it's really true.

Speaker 2: 36:33

So I had really one year of working from 8 to 11 pm, so 8 8 in the morning to 11 pm. I had my own online shop and I also pressed all my all my t-shirts on my own and stuff like this. I was really crazy for one and a half year and I yeah, I made my shop alone. I made my shop, I made all my my social media stuff. I made everything on my own again. So it was a really hard time, but I think it paid off really good, really good.

Speaker 1: 37:06

Do so. And what are your plans for the future to um in in the business? I mean in the business. What are your plans? Do you have any plans?

Speaker 2: 37:17

I think it's a really hard question because, um, I think I became older and wiser, maybe in the last 10 years, but I'm not fed up with the industry, so I see myself also in the industry for the next maybe five to 10 years I don't know how long it will be or when. I want to have children, I want to quit or maybe make only making a pause or something like this or a little break.

Speaker 1: 37:42

but um, if you will marry, maybe in 10 years or whenever, please invite me yes.

Speaker 2: 37:49

I will, oh, my god, oh my god for me, I think, um, yeah, I will be in the industry, of course, but I don't have any big plans for the future.

Speaker 1: 38:02

But also you you work it in the bank. You learned in the bank, right? No?

Speaker 2: 38:11

no, I studied. I studied logistics, but I never worked in this, in this industry. I studied logistics, yes, and, but I never worked in this industry.

Speaker 1: 38:23

I studied logistics, yes, but I never finished, because of that, but you learned a lot about the industry and passive income.

Speaker 2: 38:29

Yes, of course, yes, so it really helped me to start my job and stuff like this.

Speaker 1: 38:37

Also, my sales job on FanCent helps help me a lot. Um, to build anything, to build a podcast, to work with models. Um, um I'm not working right now as a sales, but um, you started to find your way to work with companies and anything.

Speaker 2: 38:58

Oh, yes, I think. Yeah, it really helps me a lot to be a little bit more confident and to understand what is behind something. So you don't it's not always what you see online. It's there's, there are some mechanisms behind everything. So I think it really helps a lot to understand stuff like this.

Speaker 1: 39:17

Yes, yeah, what do you think is the hardest part on in our business, on our job in our business?

Speaker 2: 39:23

to being consistent. I think it's. It's very hard when you're doing all the same stuff with maybe some different roles. You can you can slip into different roles, but you're always doing the same stuff and you have your routines and stuff like this. But to always remember that you have to do it. You should do it because consistency is is the key in in the in the industry you have to do my god it is everything again and again, and again, and on some point, on some point it will work and then it's easy.

Speaker 2: 39:57

But if you do it for 10 years, like me, or you are doing it for 10 years also it's sometimes you have some, some issues with yourself oh my god, or your pet is dying, or stuff like this and you are. You don't feel to to do naked content, but you have to because exactly it's what it's what your fan base wants you to do. Um and so consistency I think it's very important, but it's also something that really is struggling.

Speaker 1: 40:26

So you're struggling Also, I can tell you. Sometimes I have this now. I'm so tired of posting any day.

Speaker 2: 40:37

I understand that I sometimes feel the same and sometimes I'm also very excited to. If I know I made a really, really nice movie or something like this, I'm really excited to to share it with people, and sometimes, yeah, you're just doing your stuff and it's yeah.

Speaker 1: 40:53

sometimes you have to push yourself every day again. Yes, it's really true. You have to stay motivated. You have to stay. Sometimes you don't feel like to show you. You have to stay healthy.

Speaker 2: 41:08

You also have to stay in your shape. That people are are known for that. That people are know you in. Yeah, you can change a little bit, but most people will have that type oh my God, oh my God.

Speaker 1: 41:22

I can write you a story from this, because I was starting with big boobs and a little bit more, then I was really skinny and big boobs, then I was working like a gym girl. So I changed my content. Now I changed my content again.

Speaker 2: 41:39

And you lose follower by every change you do. If I would make myself red-haired, people would not join my my channel anymore, because they know just Lucy, it's a German blonde, small-waisted girl with a nice flat uh with a nice flat tummy.

Speaker 1: 41:57

So, oh yeah, oh my god, your body is amazing. What?

Speaker 2: 42:02

are you doing? Really? I'm, I'm not doing that much. I'm uh, I'm a, I'm a riding girl. So I I own two horses, I'm riding a lot and I do a lot of uh stuff around the horses. So I'm filling up the hay and stuff like this and filling up some water for the horses, but I'm not a gym rat, I'm not so, and I did a long time ago I was doing swimming as a professional sport.

Speaker 2: 42:31

So when I was in school and my metabolism is just a little bit like this. So I'm very happy. I can eat everything I want and I'm not getting fat. So I'm very happy. I can eat everything I want and I'm not getting fat. So I'm a happy girl.

Speaker 1: 42:42

I was also riding for 15 years. Does Lucy know about it? So yeah, maybe I like to visit you and your horses. Yeah, you should, you make me so happy because I was also in the how you call it jumping.

Speaker 2: 42:57

Yes, jumping, yeah, show jumping.

Speaker 1: 43:00

Yeah, in the show jumping I was really good when I was 16 and 17,. I had a lot of horses. You need to ride my horse with the little fence, I think. This was, oh my God, and if you was one time a riding girl, you will be forever a riding girl.

Speaker 2: 43:20

It will never go away. It's nothing like an ick that you can shake off. You always have to. It's. It's like this when I'm, when I'm sitting in the car and I see some horses, I was called horses.

Speaker 1: 43:33

It will never change yeah, okay, one question more. It's because you are really famous in Germany, also in the US, but is also the US market your focus?

Speaker 2: 43:48

It's not. It's not because I don't I sometimes do some English clips, but mainly, I think, because my Dirty Talk in German is very famous. I'm very well known for my Dirty Talk. Do you do anything?

Speaker 1: 44:02

in German.

Speaker 2: 44:03

Yes, most of the things I do in German, all the clips I produce maybe 80%, are in German. I only sometimes use English if some people, because I also have some followers from overseas For them. I also do some English clips, but most of the clips are german because I feel much more comfortable in uh, speaking my own language, and I think I can be a little bit more nasty and in german okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1: 44:34

I understand that, my god. You have to be with me and the girls, or I will tell you later. Okay, um, okay, so, um. The next show for you is um berlin venus. Yes, so the users can find you there yes, I will be there on friday.

Speaker 2: 44:51

On the friday and the show in berlin I'm. I don't have my own stand there, because all the years when I was lucy cat I always had my my own, my own stand okay but it's not allowed this year to give some flyers if you just have, if you are not in Aussteller ah, no, I don't have some flyers, I just have my my own autograph cards and maybe there's a little link on.

Speaker 1: 45:17

But yeah, will you be next year on the shows like Amsterdam or something?

Speaker 2: 45:23

Maybe I will join I don't know by now, but we go together. Could be a nice idea, yeah.

Speaker 1: 45:29

Come on, because I have to go also for the podcast to some shows Prague and Amsterdam so let's go together.

Speaker 2: 45:36

Yes, why not?

Speaker 1: 45:37

And I would also go to some affiliate.

Speaker 2: 45:45

Yes, yeah, there are also some messen, some shows shows yeah yeah, there are also some shows for affiliate marketing, and there I want to join also let's do it.

Speaker 1: 45:53

Yeah, let's do it. Great, yeah, um, if some models are, you are working with models. So if a model like to start with your ref link, are you doing it?

Speaker 2: 46:06

yes, if, if you, you can write me on instagram if you have any questions or stuff like this. I'm, I'm also not. Uh, I, I don't need money from you're not.

Speaker 2: 46:15

You're not shy no, I I'm not shy too, and I don't. Uh, I like to help people so many. Sometimes, uh, I'm also getting some instagram dms. Oh, I've seen that you're doing this and this. Can you help me with this? Yeah, and I will. I, I don't need to be paid for that. I really like to share all the stuff I learned in the last 10 years, so, um, if you have any questions, you can also also DM me.

Speaker 1: 46:39

Reach out to Just Lucy. Yes, yeah, just Lucy Official, just Lucy Official yeah. I also will link your pages down the podcast. Next question Now it's the good stuff. Okay, I'm really excited.

Speaker 2: 47:01

Tell us a little bit what changed in your private life the last few months yeah, in the last few months, um I, um, yeah, I quitted my, my relationship with my boyfriend um my grandma died, so um I was living in, so sorry about it and my grandma died and she was really really uh, we were really close together.

Speaker 2: 47:27

So, um, I know her, I know her for 30 years and we were really close. So my grandpa was alone in my hometown. So I I thought it would be a nice idea to give something back and move back into the house where I was born Not really born, because I was born in a hospital, but where I lived so many years and will help my grandpa to do a little stuff like the household and stuff like this, because he was always a hand worker. He always works hard, but he's not someone who can cook, so I will, I will cook for him and make some. Oh my god, this is so um, yeah, and so I, I want to. I wanted to give something back because they always, um, yeah, they always help me with everything in my life and you will take care of him, you will take care of him I will take care of him now.

Speaker 1: 48:22

Yeah, I think oh my God, this is so also that shows you're really firmly family person, right.

Speaker 2: 48:28

Yes, I am, I really am yes.

Speaker 1: 48:30

I would do. I have I have to visit you. Yes, you can come to my. Come on, I will do it come on, I will do it.

Speaker 2: 48:43

Oh my god, I think. Oh my god, we have so really good business talks when we made, yes, sure, I'm sure we will. Uh, we will talk like in the in the in a girl's camp a long time ago when we were little like in the night, until the, until 4 pm maybe, I think it's sleep over.

Speaker 1: 48:58

Oh no, it's 4 am. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, oh, really nice, really nice. Um, so you are, and your horses, back in germany, in the north of germany, north of germany. Yes, I'm happy about it, because I'm also in the north of germany yes, so it's only a two hours ride.

Speaker 2: 49:19

I think it's not that, yeah, come on.

Speaker 1: 49:21

So we have to go for a coffee or for a nice day, let's do it. I'm, I'm there for you. I also have to bring you to my girls. We have a little girls crew like nadine karastas, miss jackson, um, yeah, juliane Kraus, and sometimes we're together and do some nice things. You have to come with us, because I think you, you will be fit with us really well. I think too, it sounds really really good.

Speaker 2: 49:52

I think, yeah, and we are always so productive like this, or what you're doing some wellness trips together or um yeah wellness or working.

Speaker 1: 50:04

It's a little bit party party but also working. So if we are together, we are also do brainstorming, we do anything. It's really really, really, really cool and I'm so thank you work, I think. Yes, it's true. Yes, so I'm not really close with a lot of girls because you know our industry, especially in germany, but sometimes you are matching really cool for some characters and the vibe is the same and you have so good energy and, yeah, you have. Yeah, you like me. You have to come, you have to come with us.

Speaker 1: 50:39

I will Do it Because it's so hard to find cool people in the industry. Yes, it's really true, and we are pushing each other all the time.

Speaker 2: 50:50

Yeah, that's very good, because it's not that easy for girls to have girls in the industry, because some people always think that you are a competition.

Speaker 1: 51:03

Yeah, is it's only a german thing in us? You don't have this.

Speaker 2: 51:08

Yeah, I know and that's why you're so that's why they are so um, yeah, I forgot it's stupid, yeah, but I think it's very good to share some secrets, because you can't know anything by one. You always have to share your experiences and some people will will make their decisions based on your decisions. So it's always good to, yeah, to network a little bit and also, I think the time changes.

Speaker 1: 51:36

before, when we started in our time, you always had a boyfriend who was helping you, or a husband or whatever, and now it's like the girls go out do their own thing, especially in the US. You don't need someone behind you.

Speaker 2: 51:51

You can do everything on your own. You don't have to build any websites anymore. You just have your own accounts and you can upload everything there. You just have your own accounts and you can upload everything there. When I started, we all had to have our own technique teams, because we for me, it was something I really don't I know, I know, I know, and you have to have someone who was a little bit nerdy and know the stuff, yeah, but the funny thing is I was working as a manager for Germany.

Speaker 1: 52:24

So the thing is the thing with the boys and with the boyfriends, it's only a German thing. Other girls don't need something like this, in other countries, for example.

Speaker 2: 52:36

Because maybe the portals, the websites, are a little bit more easy to understand.

Speaker 1: 52:41

Maybe I think the german websites were always something that was really complicated when I, oh my god, when we started, think about when we started, it was horrible it's very complicated you always need something. Today you can buy your own domain. It's easy. You can link to your own domain. Before it was started, it was, it was to your own domain.

Speaker 2: 53:00

Before it was horrible, but when we started it was crazy. It was really crazy. I didn't know what I was doing. It was crazy.

Speaker 1: 53:07

Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. Yeah, also, I'm really thankful for the time I had with Fan Central because I was with them on the shows. I met a lot of people and also I learned a lot of people and also I learned a lot from the models, from the US models especially.

Speaker 2: 53:23

I'm exclusive on Fan Central for four years and I'm very happy to be there. I think I've never worked with such good people before. They're really really really good people. They're always by your side if it's good, if it's not good, but they will never push you to do things you don't want to do. This is something that I only know from fan central. The last uh, the last um websites I was exclusive to were completely different, so I'm I know I was also exclusive as a cam girl and you know I had.

Speaker 1: 53:57

We had the same struggle. You always get get control it, you get push it. It was horrible.

Speaker 2: 54:04

Yes, and this is something that Fence Throw would never do, so I can always say that you can try Fence Throw. It's something that works for me.

Speaker 1: 54:13

You also have a raffling right. Yes, I also have a raffling, so if girls like to start with you on Fence Throw, they can use your raffling you can, so if, if girls like to start with you on fancentro.

Speaker 2: 54:23

They can use your raffling. Just, lucycom, if you, if you would go on this website, you can.

Speaker 1: 54:27

You can join fancentro and see what happens really really, really nice, um lucy, if girls hear the podcast or watching this podcast. What are your free golden tips if girls like to start an industry?

Speaker 2: 54:48

oh, that's a really tough. It's really tough. Okay, I need to think about it a little bit. Um, I think what is really really important that you, that you should, um important that you that you should um, yeah, that you should protect your own stage name, first protected by the law, you can protect your content.

Speaker 2: 55:13

Yeah, also also protect your content. Don't do anything you would not do in private. I think it's very, very important that you don't go into your own borders. If you, if you don't like doing anal, for example, I would never suggest you to do it in your clips, because people will feel what you like and what you don't like, and you should, you should do it at least for the next two, five or ten years. So you, you need to enjoy what you're doing. I would never show something in my clips or in my videos that I'm, that I'm not doing in private. So this is something I would really, really, um, yeah, tell you girls. And the third one is, yeah, to be consistent. I think consistency is always the key.

Speaker 2: 56:00

I can't say something else because consistency really pays off at the end of the day.

Speaker 1: 56:04

It is. It is the key, it is the key. Yeah, thank you so much for your time. Thanks for having me. It was an amazing podcast with you and I'm so happy.

Speaker 2: 56:17

Maybe we can do a second episode, for example in German, if you like yes, I'm much more comfortable to talk a little bit in German, but I tried my best.

Speaker 1: 56:28

Don't judge me no, your English is perfect. Look my I also. I was working within with Fancy2 within US company, and I also also now I lost some words.

Speaker 2: 56:42

I think most of the things we can understand, that we can communicate enough to that everyone knows what we're talking about no, I will be really happy if we met again for a second episode in German also.

Speaker 1: 56:55

I think for the German models this can be really interesting. So I also will upload some german episodes and yeah, yes, for sure. Thank you so much for your time. I will meet you in berlin, or maybe yes, in berlin.

Speaker 2: 57:14

Maybe you can come and visit my hometown one, one thousand percent.

Speaker 1: 57:21

I will. I'm very happy to see you. Yeah, okay, thank you girl and we talk after the spot. Thank you so much.