Speaker 1: 0:08

Welcome to another episode of the Sisters in Cash podcast. This podcast is featured by modelsearchercom, your adult-friendly social media platform. Today is my guest, brittany Andrews. So welcome, I'm so happy to have you on my podcast and I'm a little bit nervous about it.

Speaker 2: 0:35

Well, I'm very happy to be here all the way from Germany to Vegas, baby, two beautiful Leos doing our Leo thing. I love it.

Speaker 1: 0:48

Okay, brittany, can you tell us a little bit, or our models a little bit more about you, because you are a legend. I saw you in a lot of movies, wow, whoa.

Speaker 2: 1:02

Yes, yes, I have been in the adult entertainment industry for over three decades. I'm going on my well, I'm in my fourth decade. I'm going to be in October. It's going to be 34 years that I've been in the adult entertainment industry. I started off in 1991, in October, feature dancing and doing magazines. Then I started doing movies and it was like, yeah, I mean, I've over 30 years. I've done like a little bit of everything in the business.

Speaker 1: 1:39

It's amazing, it's amazing. I'm so nervous about you.

Speaker 2: 1:44

So silly. We're just a bunch of hot bitches hanging out yapping away. Pick up a glass of wine, girlfriend, It'll be fine.

Speaker 1: 1:54

Okay, okay, so why you started in the industry?

Speaker 2: 2:00

Poverty. I was. You know, I dropped out of school in seventh grade and I was a hot bitch, but I was also a very smart bitch. Even though I didn't have an education from school, I was very good at sales and I was a good communicator. And you know, I had a boyfriend at that time who did properly go to school and me and him would go and interview for the same jobs and I would always get the job Right. So I was just like.

Speaker 2: 2:36

Oh, I was just a natural born like seller from a really young age. Like, I knew how to pitch myself. I knew how to, like make myself look good, sound good. Like I just knew how to like. Yeah, like, I'm the person that you want for that. You know I was at. At 16 years old, I was an assistant manager of the world's second largest beauty supply company at one of their branches in Milwaukee, wisconsin, which is where I'm from. Wisconsinites were known to be like cheeseheads and so, yeah, you know, I just had a natural kind of ability, you know, to get shit done and to manipulate, I guess, to a certain extent this is the Leo thing, right.

Speaker 2: 3:26

Yes, exactly, I'm a natural born entertainer and so, yeah, you know, I was in management for quite a few years and it was one of those things. Back then there was something called classified ads in the back of newspapers and that's how you would look for jobs. Nowadays you go to like monstercom or or whatever there's all like these different, like upwork, there's like job source sites, but back then it was in the newspaper and I really had no interest in becoming a stripper and but I was curious about, like just the whole thing, right, and it was like I had a boyfriend at that time and he was like honey, those bitches make money, you should go try to do that. And I was like, okay, and you know exactly, once again, being the natural born Leos that we are, I jumped up on stage, the light found me and I you know that we are I jumped up on stage, the light found me and I, you know, and the rest was not history but her story.

Speaker 2: 4:29

And, yeah, I was off to the races and you know, and it's funny because that that particular strip club is in the ghetto, like every time I go there and I go like once every decade, and everyone's like don't get shot. Don't get like you're going to get shot Cause it's like so good at where it's at. But I'm like you know what I have to go and every time I'm a little nervous cause, like you know, it's a very, you know, high crime. Uh, low economic area and uh, I'm a very much old white bitch, right, like there's no two ways about it, I'm blonde, I'm white and I'm walking in and every time I'm so glad that I do right, you know, I always like to be like touch back to your roots, like where you came from, to make sure you've got the humility you know to see like, hey, I'm very grateful, I've had a really fucking blessed life and this is like where it all started.

Speaker 2: 5:29

And so, yeah, I just went like maybe two years ago again and, yeah, you know, I had no idea that when I walked into that fucking, you know just to that fucking, you know just I mean the, the, the pole was a basement pole with duct tape on it. I mean that's how ghetto the place was. Like I was trying to learn how to do the pole with like black and blue thighs, because it wasn't like a pretty gold pole that spun no bitch, it was like you know, a construction pole I mean it was. It was really rough but, um, you know, it really did lead me to have, you know, such an amazing life that I'm so blessed for and so many years later. I remember when I first retired at 30, I was like, oh, I'm old, my life is over. And then old bitches started trending and I was like I just got here, motherfucker, I'm back in the house.

Speaker 1: 6:31

Yeah, myth is the most, the most the best category right now on Pornhub, right right now on Pornhub, right.

Speaker 2: 6:42

It is. It is, you know, and it's one of those things of where you know it's not just you know, obviously it's a really big sorry. My dogs are blowing up, you know. I just got a new. I do animal rescue as well and I just got a new adopted dog and she's a little feral, just like mommy. Hold on one second, sophia, that's a dominatrix for you. Oh yeah, no, the animals don't care at all. I'm sorry, I have another camera here that I totally didn't realize was not playing, but yeah, we won't be using that one, okay, cool.

Speaker 2: 7:22

So yeah, milf, you know, and the funny thing about it is is when I retired the first time, the word MILF had just came out and there really was no other word in the history of they're now calling it phenomenon, female phenomenon, phenomenon, yeah, something like that Phenomenon. You get my point? Yeah, exactly. So English, you know, is not my strong suit. You probably speak five languages. I can't even get English out of my mouth. So, yeah, so at that time there had not been any words in the English language that described an older woman. That was positive. You had crone. You had, you know, like sage was maybe one that was kind of okay, a hag like there just was no words that an older woman was positive. And so those of us that were in the business at that time we didn't necessarily have like a good feeling towards it because we were like, because we'd never heard of a word that was actually positive. So we thought, you know, I don't want to be called a MILF Like. That's kind of negative, that's saying I'm an old bitch, you know, dah, dah, dah, dah dah. But then of course it just it blew up and I think you know, as somebody that's been in the business for so long, I have a somewhat kind of historical perspective of it.

Speaker 2: 8:56

I can look at different trends and things that were going on during that time the stage in the in culture, right Of like, where the the big titted blonde bitch was no longer very popular, right, and it was more like about like kind of skinny, white, goth, tatted, you know, pink hair kind of thing and um, and I kind of felt like the MILF was kind of a throwback to what a lot of guys had grown up to believe, like what was sexy, right, and I think so. Then it was not just like an older woman thing, but it was kind of like this look the playboy, look that kind of had gotten pushed out of the way, an adult that a lot of fans still resonated with, and I think that that really kind of helped, you know, push the MILF into what it was. Of course, then things changed with time and then the normal became, you know, purple hair and tattoos which I'm very happy that you know I'm going to talk about this that there's more diversity, you know, in the business today than when I was younger. You know when I was younger, this kind of throwback that I'm talking about, you know all of us looked the exact same, right, really, yeah, you could put like 10 of us bitches in a line. You know me, jenna Jameson, janine, you know Adara Michaels, nikki Tyler we're all like five foot five to five foot nine, blonde, big tits, double D, 130 pounds. Like we all look like the same fucking bitch right Now. It's great, you know there's opportunities, for sure Latina, asian, black, tall, like that's the way I mean. Everybody should be represented, because it's a big fucking planet and we're all different, and so you know I'm happy that now that there is a lot of diversity, of course, you know I'm still always going to be the same bitch.

Speaker 2: 11:11

I grew up in the 90s, where this is what was popular and this is what my fans, my brand, is. So you know, I shall stay true to my brand, but you know, I'm very glad that things you know have changed, and I mean with the, with the pandemic and OnlyFans, you see even more diversity than ever of like you know, a lot more bigger women. And now cellulite, yes, is popular. You know, I was just looking at it on Twitter today. Some chick had all this cellulite and she had like a close up picture of it and she said, guys, is this hot or not? And there were more guys on there that said that they thought it was hot than not. Like fuck, things have changed and I love it.

Speaker 1: 11:50

Okay, so this brings me to the next point. So the industry. The time changed and when you started in the industry, you had some other ways to get traffic, to bring traffic to your pages, to your yeah, to anything. What was, in your time, the most important traffic thing?

Speaker 2: 12:17

I feel it's still the same thing that there is today, and that's like being a celebrity of some sort.

Speaker 1: 12:24

Okay, because you hadn't, at this time, social media.

Speaker 2: 12:28

That's why I'm asking Right, yeah, but it still really was the same kind of thing. I used to always joke that I was kind of like amongst like my friends and family, I was the pretend porn star, because I did so much magazines and so much soft core that you know, and it wasn't like trendy to be like a hardcore bitch back then. Right, the shine is on. The shine is shining. It looks amazing. Let me just say that shine contour.

Speaker 2: 12:59

I love it, girlfriend. I am rocking that shine contour. I love it, girlfriend. It might not be seeing she's rocking the shine anyways. And so, yeah, you know, back then I used to have like this joke that I used to. So you know, I had so many different ambitions, business-wise, more than anything. Like I, even though I'm a Leo, I'm a Virgo rising, and it really has always been my dream to be like a female business owner more than an entertainer, which was very different from a lot of other models back in the 90s, because back then it was a lot of like women in Hollywood that kind of failed at mainstream acting and then that's how they ended up getting into porn films was they weren't making it with real acting. So then they ended up, you know, in porn. But I really, you know, was in porn but wanted to be a businesswoman.

Speaker 1: 14:13

I know, I know this.

Speaker 2: 14:15

Yeah, exactly. And so, like back then, you really had to still be the porn star because otherwise you would never get the traffic, you wouldn't get on the Howard Stern show, you wouldn't get in Penthouse magazine. And how are people going to find you? Well, of course they had to find you by listening to the radio, going to print magazines like these, different. And today it's the same thing.

Speaker 2: 14:36

It's like if you've got, you know, an OnlyFans, if you're not doing extremely well on like Instagram or you're shooting for whatever the top like porn companies are in your business, if you're not finding some way doing extremely well on TikTok, youtube, something like, you got to find some way to be really successful as some kind of influencing celebrity content creator. Otherwise it's just going to be very difficult to get the press, the podcast, the PR, the traffic to your name. Like, you've got to find some kind of way to stand out to get that traffic. So I mean the way that you're going to get it. Obviously TikTok didn't exist, podcast didn't, but you know, radio shows did, magazines did, so it's primarily kind of the same shows, not just a little bit different.

Speaker 1: 15:36

Okay, so what do you think at this time now about tube marketing?

Speaker 2: 15:44

Okay, Tube marketing.

Speaker 1: 15:47

Tube marketing.

Speaker 2: 15:49

Yes, so that's why I retired, you know when. So I was not only an adult film star, you know, I had a 5000 square foot studio downtown LA and it was like one of the top film studios that all of the porn companies would shoot at in the 90s and the early 2000s and I was producing and directing and I had about like 15 websites. It was called the Niche Bitch Network. My name was the Niche Bitch and my affiliate program was called yes, and my affiliate program was called Bitch Pays, right and so and this is in the early 2000s and so I ended up retiring around 2006.

Speaker 2: 16:38

I got my hall of fame and I said I'm out of here. I see that the ship is sinking and I'm going to go take a, I'm going to take my tube, my tugboat, and I'm the fuck out of here. People insured up the. You know, the adult business just crashed, along with the economy in 2008. And what did it all have to do with? It had to do with peer to peer torrents, Right. So back then it was all about Napster and Metallica came out, you know share music and you know the, the music and I was.

Speaker 2: 17:11

You know I ended up becoming a DJ like later on. But you know, even in my 20s, the reason I became a DJ was because I was very connected to the. It wasn't called EDM back then, it was House Meat. I'm an old school house head but you know I was very connected to the electronic dance music industry in LA and New York and I was friends with a lot of DJs and record labels and my assistant at that time had worked for a record label and so me and a lot of people from the music industry were having the same kind of issues because Hollywood hadn't been hit yet, but the porn industry was getting hit, um, and we were really the first video that was getting hit, because it wasn't going to be Hollywood that they were going to be stealing from. You know they didn't have any respect for the adult content creator at that time, um, which was then, just you know, being a producer director in porn. They had zero respect. They could give a fuck less.

Speaker 2: 18:13

So you know they were torching shit like left and right. And as a as a producer director that owned my own studio that was, you know, distributing my own dvds and all that kind of stuff I was like you know what the fuck is the point and putting all this money, time and effort into it if it's just going to be given away for free? I'm mine DVDs and all that kind of stuff. I was like you know what the fuck is the point in putting all this money, time and effort into it if it's just going to be given away for free on mine? Like I can't make a living this way, you know. I'm like I'm done, I'm out of here, you know. And so what was the original question? I'm so bad, what do you think?

Speaker 1: 18:46

No, I love it. Oh, the tube sites.

Speaker 2: 18:50

Yes, exactly. And at the same time, you know the tube sites, torrent sites, all the same kind of thing came out and just started ripping off you know, independent content creators at that time and had like no respect for any kind of copyrights or trademarks and just made it impossible to make any money. You know, of course, everything changes. You know I'm not somebody that's like tube sites fucked up my life, it's like. You know what? Yeah, I did at that time. I did something else. I moved on. Everything changes. You got to be very flexible, resilient, adaptable. You come back in and go, okay, well, what's going on right? And so I came back in once again as, like a producer, director now it's called a content creator and going, oh well, I can make content, make money off of it again through OnlyFans or ManyVids or whatever it might be right fans or many vids or whatever it might be Right.

Speaker 1: 19:56

But also as a porn star. You know, I also have my Brittany Andrews dot com, so so it's a member side. Membership side.

Speaker 2: 20:00

It is, and so perfect.

Speaker 2: 20:02

Kind of the way that I jump back in. I am going to get back to your original question. I swear I might forget it again though by the time I get back there. But so when I came back in, I came back in like right before the pandemic and my whole plan was like you know what, brittany you know I'd taken a decade off came back in and I was like you know what and I did film school for three years in New York and I was producing and directing like regular films, going to the Cannes Film Festival South by Southwest.

Speaker 2: 20:36

I won a ton of awards for producing regular films music videos, commercials, and then I was DJing all over the world too. I got a master's certification in Ableton. I was producing music, so I was really just involved in like regular music and film for a long time. And then I saw how much these bitches were making on OnlyFans and I was like yo, I'm still hot Mommy's coming back. So I came back in and I thought, okay, well, nobody knows who the fuck I am anymore, right? So let me just go and do what's easy.

Speaker 2: 21:08

Because I had been on the behind the camera side so much for that last decade that I was like you know what? It sounds nice, I can just go suck some cock, get on my fucking knees, get fucked and go home. Yes, I don't have to deal with pre-production, production, post-production, research, development, distribution, theatrical releases, blah, blah, blah. I was like I get to just suck cock and go home. Yes, right, like I was super stoked about doing that and I was like you know what, let me get popular again, let me get relevant, let me let people fucking know I'm here, right, and.

Speaker 2: 21:43

But then the pandemic happened like right, when I was kind of starting to get some momentum, and then they were like oh well, we need people that can, you know, like make content for like these bigger studios, like from their home and everything. And obviously I knew how and I kind of got wrangled into producing, directing again and and then of course too, I was not on any platforms whatsoever at all. You know, I'd let my Brittany Andrewscom, like, die. You know, I had the, the, URL.

Speaker 2: 22:18

Yeah, I'd had the URL, but I wasn't doing anything with the website at all, and um, so then it's like 2020 and I'm like so then it's like 2020 and I'm like, what the fuck is all this online shit, you know? And so then I started off with the fan platforms, you know, and I tried to tackle OnlyFans first, then Fansly and LoyalFans around the same time Probably LoyalFans a little bit before Fansly, because I know the owner of Loyal Fans. And so then when OnlyFans said fuck you to creators, then I jumped onto Fansly. I was already on Loyal Fans at that time. Then I started working on the clip platforms, which was I want clips, clips for sale and many vids. Then I was like, okay, it was like two years ago and I was like, all right, it's time to get you know Brittany Andrewscom like back into the mix, right? So then I went on to Elevated X and I started building out Brittany Andrewscom.

Speaker 2: 23:27

That's when the tube sites started coming in. I was like, okay, well, I need to find a way to get traffic to britneyandrewscom. And so that's also when I jumped in with Branded Scan, who you know being. I've been in the business for so fucking long, like there's so many websites that had a ton of my content out there that I was having to compete against. So I had to actively work on like getting all of that content off of all the freaking tube sites, but then I got to replace it with my sites, my content on all of those tube sites. Otherwise that shit's just going to come back up again and I'm going to have to be competing with other companies that have got my content.

Speaker 1: 24:15

Yes.

Speaker 2: 24:21

So, yeah, so it was kind of like one of those things of like where, okay, let me take all of it down Now I've got to put all of my own stuff in, but it's been a definite curve of, at 2020, not being online at all to now. You know, being on um, I'm also on extra naughty naughty americas and I'm on playboy centerfolds uh, along with the loyal fans, fansly, only fans and then the clips for sale, the many vids that I want clips, and and then the Brittany Andrewscom I'm still really trying to and then, of course, youtube, tiktok, twitter, reddit, right, you're doing everything. I know I've got a big team of people that I manage myself. I don't have anybody. I don't have a manager. I have a man. I have multiple managers that I, that I, you know they're employees, right. So I don't have like a management company of people that I outsource to all of my people and it's a big team are all in-house and they're not in-house employees. But you get my point right. Yes, yes, they're in Bangladesh, romania, philippines. I've got people all over the world. That's part of my team. But, yeah, I built that all out starting from scratch in 2020. So I'm still like I'm in the process of waiting for a contract from one company that's in Mexico that worked a lot with Vicky Vette on her tube stuff.

Speaker 2: 25:53

I was working with another company and one of the discussions that we had recently about the whole tube traffic that's more difficult, right? So, and I get it right, I've been around a long time and the concept of like what an affiliate program used to be to what the affiliate market is today is very different. It's still somewhat the same, but very different. And then a lot of the people that are traffic people affiliate program people are people that are old, like me, that have been around a long time, and they're used to a studio system. They're not used to the content creator, right, and so the way that a lot of the tube traffic works is more geared towards a studio that makes 30 minute scenes instead of a content creator that does solo, fuck it all seven to 12 minute, you know, right? And so, um, the one company I was working with, it's extra work to work with someone like myself to figure out how to make compilations and like different things with my content. That fits in to what I would like to say an older, outdated tube model that hasn't caught up with the creator community yet right. So it's like old people like myself that come from this affiliate traffic place that I get it. I had my own affiliate program then and they're more used to studios and they still haven't really grasped the content creator and they got to figure it out Because the studio system is fucking dying.

Speaker 2: 27:50

I'm here in Vegas, in LA, you know, and there's all Hollywood in general is having a very difficult time and so is, as I like to say, like little Hollywood, which is porn, all of these studios. They can't compete with all of us bitches on OnlyFans. They're having a more, yeah, they're having a more difficult time bringing money in because now they're having to compete with us. Now everybody's a sex worker, so now everybody wants to be in these mainstream scenes so that they can have advertising and traffic for their OnlyFans. But the production is going down because the production companies don't have the same money that they used to have and the ability to have the amount of jobs is going down because now, as like a porn star, you're competing with athletes. You know that now have got an OnlyFans chef. That's now got an.

Speaker 2: 28:43

OnlyFans Instagram, right, so it's a very different. You know spectrum, right, and so the studios are having a hard time keeping up, and you know, a lot of these tube sites, in my humble opinion, haven't figured out how to really capitalize and work yet with the content creator community that is now bigger than the studio system that used to be. Yeah, that's the dominatrix of me. Come on, come on, tube traffic, get it together, start figuring it out.

Speaker 1: 29:25

It's in your eyes.

Speaker 2: 29:28

Take a note from Biden, Step down and let a young person in. Damn it.

Speaker 1: 29:34

In your eyes, is a membership page the best one?

Speaker 2: 29:39

No, absolutely not. Fucking OnlyFans is what makes me the money. Um, you know, the main thing is the newsletter, the customer journey sheet, having, you know, access to those fans right, so consistently within my team. And this is one of the reasons I don't want to have a management team, because that management team isn't going to give a fuck about getting me, my own fans, right where my own team they know, like, hey, we want to try to push people to britneyandrewscom because I get more of that money and it's not even but you know that model searcher you can link directly to your only fans.

Speaker 1: 30:22

You also can track how many, how many people come.

Speaker 2: 30:25

Oh yeah, no I know I look at my my analytics from model searcher on a regular basis. And yeah, because I've my promo gal. She posts on model searcher on a regular basis and every day, in a WhatsApp group, she sends me all the statistics from my Instagram, from my Twitter, from models. You know all of the places that we've got, you know free trial links and every day I see how many clicks we got, how many subscribers, how much money was made.

Speaker 1: 30:58

And what's your best traffic source?

Speaker 2: 31:01

TikTok no yes.

Speaker 1: 31:07

I was starting TikTok when it started. Then I got banned really quick and now it's so hard to grow the account again and for me it's the best. One is X and Instagram.

Speaker 2: 31:22

What's the first one?

Speaker 1: 31:23

X Twitter.

Speaker 2: 31:26

Oh X yeah. I didn't like that anybody was calling it X, yet I thought it was still Twitter. Lot of different traffic strategies, you know, consistently. I'm a little burnt out on it at this moment. I had a pretty good one yesterday on, you know, another phone farm system with the dating apps like for Bumble, you're doing this also. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we do everything.

Speaker 2: 32:13

Yeah, we do everything, yeah, so, um, but yeah, you know, I recently got shadow banned on Reddit, so that kind of, and and then my my Instagram recently got banned for like a month. I just got it back my secondary TikTok account I ran into some issues with that. So I do have like a funnel meeting with my promotional gal soon and we're going to look at all that, because we just created all new funnels for everything and with some new domains, and we just yeah, we just made all brand new funnels for everything, and so we're kind of focused on that. And you know, and I've got different tech people around the world that you know I work with on these different kind of like traffic strategies as well, but it's becoming more and more difficult as I don't know they're. They're they're getting younger and younger, with more ADHD and more.

Speaker 1: 33:22

Adderall.

Speaker 2: 33:23

What the fuck are you talking about? Can you please speak in a full sentence for this old bitch? Can you please speak in a full sentence for this old bitch.

Speaker 1: 33:32

You're talking in short code, dude, Like all right, yeah. So, for example, when I creating content for TikTok, I'm feeling so weird because there are all this, this young girls who do funny things, and yeah, it's it's. It's so weird to do it.

Speaker 2: 33:49

I have like I, you know what, I use the hashtag GenerationX a lot and so I've got a lot of older followers that appreciate my content. So I do a lot of stuff that's more for my GenerationX. And then, you know, I just did like a cute one the other day where it was a I don't know who sang the song because I'm old and but it was talking about like, hey, you know what, it's not that bad. Like, you know, britney Spears, avril Lavigne, rihanna, right, and I had pictures of all of them up and then, like at the end of it I was like, hey, generation Z from generation X, you're gonna love being a MILF, right.

Speaker 2: 34:33

So I try to find ways to like talk to the younger generations but then also speak to my own generation as well in different ways. You know, I respect that I am the age that I am and um, but you know, I know that I have a lot of younger fans. Like the young guys love the older bitches. And then I have, like older fans that love older bitches too, because they're like, oh my God, she knows the same musical references, she knows the same, you know shows. I grew up with things like that. So I try to, because I do have a varied audience, you know, of both young, old and fetish. I try to spend time catering to like each demographic a little bit here and there.

Speaker 1: 35:23

It's amazing how you handle all these traffic sources.

Speaker 2: 35:27

I know right. Last night I was working on my YouTube page until like 2 am in the morning.

Speaker 1: 35:34

What are you doing on YouTube, try-ons, or what are you doing?

Speaker 2: 35:40

So when Tiki Talk went to like the algorithm was really kind of favoring longer form videos, I was like okay, and it was interesting because it was like around AVN of last year and I was just, you know, like I've always done on snappy chat, I would do like a hey, you know, this is what I'm doing today and like kind of a behind the scenes of my life on a day-to-day basis. And so I did that on Tiki Talk and it got like a lot of views and I'm like you just want to listen to me, talk, get the fuck out of here. No way, you don't want to see my tits or my ass, you just want me to. I'm like no one wants to fucking listen to me. I'm like I'm annoying, I don't want to listen to me.

Speaker 2: 36:32

But you know, the algorithm was favoring my just talking head videos.

Speaker 2: 36:38

So I started, you know, kind of going, hey, you know what, I've got this historical perspective that most people don't have of being able to look at how things were to how things are today. And I started just doing a lot of videos based upon like that, like hey, you know what they used to feed us on set in porn and now you starve to death, like that particular video I did did amazing. And so now I have content for YouTube because I'm like, oh, I'm shooting like these seven, eight minute talking videos on Tiki Talk. So I was like you know what, let me throw it onto YouTube. And so now you know, I've got a bunch of different categories. I'm, you know, doing like interviews with other porn stars, like just asking them about different things that have happened to them on set that they think is funny or interesting. Um, so I've got a bunch of different like I also give business advice to other adult content creators. Yeah, so I've got like the master class with Brittany and then oh, this is so amazing.

Speaker 1: 37:46

This is so interesting also.

Speaker 2: 37:48

So kind of a little bit of you know, just utilizing my three decades of being in the business and whether I'm talking to fans and, you know, helping educate them about, hey, you know, this is like where to jail and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah to food, to oh yeah, well, 2020,. I started this and now I've got like 30 employees and you know, but I've always- Wow 30?

Speaker 2: 38:20

Yeah, but I've always owned multiple businesses since I've been really young. I've always been like I said before it was never my dream to be a star, it was to be a businesswoman. And so, still to this day, you know, that's how I I my, that's how I handle my biz bitch.

Speaker 1: 38:42

This is amazing. Also, I will. I will link to the masterclass under the podcast because I think this can be so interesting for the models, because I think the younger generation can learn a lot from you you know what?

Speaker 2: 38:58

probably the the most important thing that anybody can learn from, I think, is just resilience like this is such a difficult, freaking business to be in you. You know the whole world will call you a whore and stupid and shut up, and you know you have no right to say anything, just suck some cock, which at that point I insert, at that point I insert the picture of me and my big fat penis and I let them know no bitch, you'll be sucking mine, you stupid whore. But anywho, that's for the other room. We're not in the dungeon today. But resilience, right.

Speaker 2: 39:37

Banking, discrimination as sex workers, you know, I myself I've lost my Venmo, my PayPal, my Cash App, my Chase account. You know like the amount. Oh, and then Fidelity, and you know all of my investment banking ones as well. You know family friends. You know whatever it might be. I luckily didn't have to go through that, but I know a lot of individuals that have, like you, really have to be resilient. You have to look at a bunch of hot bitches doing way better than you that are doing a quarter of the work.

Speaker 2: 40:07

You're like, oh my God, they just like stood up and they got like a million views. I've been sucking cock on film for three decades and I don't got a million views. Suck it Right. So you really have got to have a resiliency of being able to love yourself, who you are, what you do, not tear yourself down, because the whole world is tearing you down, and you've got to be able to consistently brush your brush, you and your fake ass. For me at least, I bought this, but ah, cause that old white bitch with no ass. You know, brush that fake ass off, and you know, jump back on the horse and get back at it. You know. Off and you know, jump back on the horse and get back at it.

Speaker 2: 40:52

You know, and I think like that's probably the number one thing that I would have to say is just, you know, don't give up, right, because it's a difficult business that takes a lot of work, and you've got to know, like everybody always says to me, like you know, do you like the performers of your era? Like you know, the 90s? Or of today? And I go, well, once again, back in the day, all you had to do was show up and suck cock and go home, right, but to be successful today, you really have to be a hardworking, intelligent woman. I mean, you can get lucky Don't don't get me wrong and you can outsource everything and have other people manage it, but really you've got to understand all these different platforms. You got to understand algorithms. You got to understand technology. You have to understand lighting, camera, makeup, wardrobe, organizing your content, storage I mean, this is so horrible.

Speaker 1: 41:49

Organizing the content for all the platforms is crazy Wow.

Speaker 2: 41:53

Yeah, me and ChatGPT were having. I mean, I got 30 years of content because I started producing and directing in the 90s and I still sell all that shit. It's a fucking nightmare over here. You know, I was having a long conversation with ChatGPT about that. Today. I'm like I've got my NAS RAID system. I've got Dropbox, because all the photographers want you to have that. I got G drive, multiple G drive accounts, one for a certain set of employees, another like for me. I've got OneDrive. I've got iCloud. I'm like suck it up Right, like you know. Yeah, just that alone. Like making sure that all of your content is organized alone. Like making sure that all of your content is organized. You know, now you really have to be using artificial intelligence in like multitudes of ways, otherwise you are going to be left behind in the dust buddy.

Speaker 2: 42:35

So I mean, I have nothing but mad respect, you know, for the, the adult content creator today, because that is somebody I know. If they're successful, they've had to work, work, you know, and they are smart bitches. And you know, I am very like, very much like a girl's cheerleader, like I am on your team. I am rooting for you, like I want to see you succeed. I love seeing other women succeed, like you know, like I've been around a long time, like, yes, I'm a Leo, but I've had my accolades, I've had my trophies. I'm sure I'll get one or two more still, but I have no problem sitting the fuck down and letting another woman, you know, have her time to shine and to make sure that I'm like that bridesmaid that is, like you know, picking up her dress at the back. You know, making sure bitch looks good Right.

Speaker 1: 43:33

Oh, this is so cool.

Speaker 2: 43:35

I think for so long that women have had this awful competitive, you know thing amongst them, and I think that you know that's not necessary anymore. We can make our own money. We can be loving kind Like that's not necessary anymore. We can make our own money. We can be loving kind like that's who. That is our nature. Yes, we're fierce, don't, don't get us wrong, bitch but it is our nature to nurture and you know, I think it's time to like put down the swords and women need to really unite. I feel like the planet really needs that from us at this time.

Speaker 1: 44:14

Absolutely amazing and you mentioned so good points because, yeah, so it's about also to manage your content, maybe also recycle your content, because always I have my vintage vault and you know what guys love.

Speaker 2: 44:38

Yeah, my vintage vault.

Speaker 2: 44:39

Right, so I'm in my 50s, but I've got content of me when I'm like you don't look like 50 ah, thank you, boo, the filter is working and but yeah, so I've got content of me like when I'm 20, like even I like looking at it, I'm like, oh my God, look at how fucking adorable. I was right, guys love that shit. They're like, oh my God, this is what. Yeah, I'm going to buy that, right, you're fucking cute. Like what did you look like? Sucking dick when you were 20? You know like, yes, and so many women that I know that are my age. They weren't producing and directing back then. There were so few like female producer directors back then. So many women I know that are my age that jump back into OnlyFans. They got no fucking content from back then because they weren't producing and directing, but I was. I had my 15 websites. I had multiple DVDs. I was.

Speaker 1: 45:32

This is so crazy 15 websites.

Speaker 2: 45:35

Yeah, I had the Niche Bitch Network so I had so much fucking content and during the pandemic I had all of those on DVD tapes so I digitized all of that. Now I'm using AI to remaster that content and yeah, dude, I'm going to sell that shit till I fucking die, because I also got all the paperwork right. Like, oh, my god, let's talk about paperwork for a hot second. I can't tell you how many motherfuckers like I don't know how it is in germany, but in the us we've got something called 2257. You got to get model releases.

Speaker 1: 46:06

you got a 2257 you got it's the same here.

Speaker 2: 46:08

It's the same here, yeah and you got to get the ids and all this different stuff and you get so many content creators that don't even understand the paperwork that they're signing and I'm like, all right, you know time to sit down with mommy, we're going to teach you what this is, where it came from, what it means, why you have to have it. Because they're like handing me a fucking piece of paper that I'm supposed to sign that's a contract from a contract and me a fucking piece of paper that I'm supposed to sign that's a contract from a contract and it doesn't even fucking make sense for a content trade shoot. I'm like a content trade shoot should have a joint release. If you give me paperwork for a content trade shoot that says you own everything, then it's no longer a content trade shoot. Bitch. Get yourself some motherfucking paperwork that says it is a joint release. You own it and I own it.

Speaker 2: 46:55

I don't want some motherfucking paperwork that says it is a joint release. You own it and I own it. I don't want to motherfucking sign your paperwork that says you own everything. I'm not going to make you sign paperwork that says I own everything. Not enough people are talking about that within the collaborator, content creator community. Everybody's using this old ass, motherfucking paperwork that has nothing to do with content trade shoots. It says I own it, all the licensing and the rights, like no bitch. This is a content trade shoot, we own it. Show up to the fucking content trade shoot with joint release paperwork. If you want me to sign something, yeah, I might even have to do like britney andrews.

Speaker 1: 47:34

Uh, content creator paperwork starter package, because drives me nuts yes, yes, I also feel like the old from the platforms for from from the platforms, you just have the normal papers you know, and nothing more.

Speaker 2: 47:50

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like an old lady with like get off my grass, stop giving me that old paperwork that don't make no sense.

Speaker 1: 48:02

Okay, okay. So you will say in this time so OnlyFans is still the most important right.

Speaker 2: 48:11

Yes, 100%. That's where the majority of my money comes from.

Speaker 1: 48:14

But you also say to the girls they should have multiple platforms.

Speaker 2: 48:20

For me that works out best, right Because every platform has their own users right. Yes, and you know what it ends up being like. Okay, so maybe I'm making 20 grand a month on OnlyFans, right, and then I'm only making 2,000 on Fansly, 2,000 on LoyalFans, maybe 1,000 on, actually, extra. Naughty's been doing very well for me recently and I'm not saying that these are my numbers.

Speaker 1: 48:55

Extra naughty.

Speaker 2: 48:57

Yeah, that's been doing very well for me. So let's just say you've got a bunch of things that are making $500 to $2,000 a month for you, Maybe even less than that, but when you tally all of those up, at the end of the year 2000, a month is uh, what is that? That's like? Um, yeah, exactly. So the numbers start adding up and so I don't know for me, like you know, if it, if, if it's going to buy my Botox bitch, let's do it, it's not the same, not, you know, I have the same, I have the same.

Speaker 2: 49:34

Exactly the same. And you've got to get people to work for you. You've got to learn.

Speaker 1: 49:38

Botox is expensive.

Speaker 2: 49:40

Yeah, it is, but that's right, and you've got to learn how to become a good manager, a good business owner. I think that that's one thing that a lot of women don't show up. They show up with an ego, they show up with ignorance, they show up being fucking rude to their people I know right, and so I was working.

Speaker 1: 50:04

I was working as, so I'm on fan central um as a model manager.

Speaker 2: 50:09

I had nearly 200 models and I can tell you I'm now also yeah, I'm also signed 2012.

Speaker 1: 50:17

Yeah, since 2012 as a model in the industry and I can tell you the new models, the new generation, they can be so rude.

Speaker 2: 50:27

Yes, yeah, they need to grow the fuck up right, and not just in the way of. My main thing is right is you hire somebody and people think that you hire somebody and they're supposed to. And this goes back to I learned this in my 20s, right? So this is 30 years and I've had a lot of different like women I've worked with that are younger, and it's like the constant reminder that you can't just hire somebody and expect them to do their job. That's not the way it works.

Speaker 2: 51:02

Yes, you have to educate them, you have to manage them, you have to train them. You have to expect that they're humans and they have lives and they have husbands and they have kids and they get sick and shit goes on in their life. They get depressed, they can't get out of bed. You have to like they are human fucking beings, right, and you have to treat them that way. And you can't be a rude cunt all the time. And you have to train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, train, manage, get reports, look at your reports, look at your fucking numbers, right? Nobody's going to come in doing the job the way that you want them to.

Speaker 2: 51:43

Lower your expectations and higher your management skills. Right, Like expectations down here, management skills up here right, Because nobody's going to like come out of the box being like how you want them to oh my God, this is so good for the girls, it's so, so much input, it's so good.

Speaker 2: 52:02

And it's very true, because you'll hear so many of these older bitches too not just young ladies, just sitting there complaining about their drop assistant, like you know, whomever it is. But how much time have you spent training them to do it the way that you want it? Well, I'm paying them to. That's not an excuse. That's actually even more of a motherfucking reason, bitch, that you should be sitting there and training them, because it is your damn money, right? What kind of reports are you getting? You know, yeah, you can keep firing people and I see this shit happening all the time. To keep firing up, right, you know what it costs more money. You're going to have more people that are going to rip you off. You're going to get a bad reputation. It'd be much better if you would shut the fuck up. How to manage people, learn how to train people, be kind of motherfuckers and grow a solid team of people that I was.

Speaker 1: 52:58

I was so impressed because you have so many assistants. I was so impressed I never work with a model who have so many assistants.

Speaker 2: 53:08

It's like yeah, and I, I run a couple of different businesses as well, so my businesses are open like day and night, and so I need to have a day. I know it sounds kind of bougie, but I have a daytime assistant, a nighttime assistant, but somebody needs to be there with my different businesses in case something you know and there's enough work something you know and there's enough work.

Speaker 1: 53:35

The models, the models will so much learn from you, because I just I know the models that yes, of course they're doing TikTok, they're doing Instagram, they're doing X, but still they have just one platform where they focused on maybe one or two fan platforms. But what you are doing YouTube, youtube, tiktok X, instagram, reddit, your homepages, all the fan platforms this is amazing and I can tell you I know a lot of models, but no one has a system and you can't do it all yourself, so I've got you.

Speaker 2: 54:12

You know multiple people that are tech people. My, my tech people are in bangladesh, uh, and then I've got, um, you know people that do the uploading.

Speaker 2: 54:23

Then I've got my writers, which are in the us, that do the like the titles oh, this is nice yeah, and so then you know, so I've got an American writer that does my titles and my descriptions for my content Right. And then I've got somebody in Bangladesh that does like the uploading Right of QA, quality assurance in the Philippines, that then double checks the work of the Bangladeshis to make sure that you know, once it's online on the website, that the featured picture is there, that it's actually working, that all the SEO tags are there. You know that everything looks good, running good. You know that type of thing as well. So, yeah, I mean I've got a lot of different people doing a lot of different things because, yeah, I need to sleep and I do want to be omnipresent, you know, as a brand. You know I want to be omnipresent. I want to be, you know, as a brand. You know I want to be omnipresent. I want to be, you know, everywhere, and I want to be able to get that. You know it can become a way to have like a passive revenue stream.

Speaker 2: 55:42

If I've got somebody that's uploading all of my videos on, I want clips and actually, yay, love you, clips for sale. Clips for Sale is actually the ones that are uploading all of my clips on Clips for Sale. But I still have somebody double check their work from my team to make sure that it's you know, the right. And we've got, you know, all of our spreadsheets. So I've got a content manager as well that manages, like, my daily pay-per-view and you know what content is going out every single day on all the different platforms. And then, like the content management schedule, right, because you're going to want to start, I start with Brittany Andrews in OnlyFans for my content trade shoots, the second that they come out, right. Once it disappears off of OnlyFans, then it's only going to be on BrittanyAndrewscom for a while before it then can go into many vids.

Speaker 2: 56:40

I want clips, clips for sale, and then, of course, each one of those is a little bit different of the kind of content I want clips more femdom clips for sale, more fetish, many vids. More vanilla, domdom Clips for Sale. More Fetish Minivids, more Vanilla. But yeah, so then. And then, of course, like the last is like the tube sites, right, so there's, like your distribution workflow.

Speaker 1: 57:01

This is so interesting?

Speaker 2: 57:06

Yeah, and then we use Asana for everything as well, so that we can map out our workflows within the team to make sure that there is each single step from booking the content trade with what are you working um? It's a project management uh software called asana okay yeah, and so like, just like content trade shoot.

Speaker 2: 57:29

I'll use that as an example. Right, so, from the beginning, doing the WhatsApp group chat, which you've seen my people, they start the WhatsApp group chat, right, so that is for my assistants to do, and then from there we've got multiple ways. So I have a form that I send everybody out that lets them know how I do my content trade shoots, because I did direct for Netflix and I've been a producer, director, film school for years. Like, I'm very like my cameras, my lighting. I kind of want to control everything because inevitably I know what I'm doing. I have a big team and whenever I let somebody else take control, I don't get the output, the kind of product that I want at the end.

Speaker 2: 58:17

Some people don't want to work with me because I'm very much like a production studio and that's totally fine, which is why I send that all out in the beginning. If they're more spontaneous, they don't want something as polished produced. I'm not the right fit for them to work with. But you get a lot of other people where they're like you're gonna do everything. All I gotta do is show up and suck cock. Yes, great, you know, those are the people I want to work with right, that they're just like happy that I'm like I'll take care of everything.

Speaker 1: 58:44

so I said that this is also nice if you take care of the light and everything and you know what you're doing yeah, yeah and so everything.

Speaker 2: 58:52

And so then the next thing is is my back office, they've got to send the docu sign, all of the paperwork, to the talent, right. Then they've got to book the. I've got a camera person, a production assistant. Those two people need to be booked, you know. And so each portion of it. Then my content manager comes in my back office, makes the folders on the G drive for the content trade shoot, which all of the paperwork goes into one folder. Then all of the raw footage goes into another folder. Then I have a full-time editor in Romania and he then puts all of the edited footage into another folder, along with the safer work, the non-safer work. So then my editor gets tagged.

Speaker 2: 59:44

So we've got this whole workflow in Asana of when the back office they do the WhatsApp group, they do the DocuSign, they make the original folder. Then the content manager comes in, then the editor comes in and then my promo gal comes in and she makes the flyers. Then the content manager comes back in, talks to talent, says hey, you know what, this is the date that we're looking at to do the release, this is, you know the money. Then we send them flyers to help with the promotion along with the release. This is, you know, the money. Then we send them flyers to help with the promotion, along with the trailers.

Speaker 2: 1:00:16

Then it's got what's it like. So we've got all these different steps with all these different people. That, oh, oh, that it has to go to my publicist, right, that's another thing we just added into the Asana workflow because I want to make sure it gets to my publicist, because I want everything to have a press release for it, and then I want to make sure that you know, everything that I work on also then goes into a spreadsheet that goes to the publicist at the end of the year so that everything is easy for nominations, for awards.

Speaker 1: 1:00:50

It's a workflow it's a big workflow and then people say uh being an adult model.

Speaker 2: 1:00:59

It's so easy they're like don't you just show up and suck cock? Yes, that's exactly what I do.

Speaker 1: 1:01:07

Keep thinking that okay, I think this was so interesting. I think we should do a second episode, because, oh, I would love to. Yeah, because the girls can so much learn from you. We don't have it in, um, yeah, in our, in, in our generation. Yes, of course we have workflows, but not not like you.

Speaker 2: 1:01:30

Yeah, there's not enough business mentors and I'm absolutely I love sharing, supporting, rooting, like anything. You know, I guess it's like you know I've spent all this time accumulating, working hard, building all my skillset. What the fuck am I going to do with it? Like you know, if I can share it with others and they can use it to inspire themselves, to build, create, you know, make more money, like, yeah, bitch, yes, that's what we're all here, for it was also me, even me.

Speaker 1: 1:02:07

I learned it a lot and lot and normally, yeah, I'm I'm really good in in um, yeah, in to um, to manage content or to reuse content. I'm really good in this, but also to work with more people.

Speaker 2: 1:02:26

Such a big inspiration ah, yes, I love showing.

Speaker 2: 1:02:30

Um, we just did a big team building trip and, uh, I have this picture and, of course, I paid for not only all of my people but their families. And it's like this we're on this boat and we're like the whole boat and I'm like the one blonde bitch in the middle because most of my team are, you know, all Filipino, bangl, filipino, bangladeshi. I've got a couple of Eastern Europeans, but like it's like I'm right in the middle of this blonde bitch in a bikini, with like these old and you know, and I also have a big charity that I started too, with all of it called Hands Providing Hope, because I am in third world countries and and I am utilizing a lower priced labor force, I also make sure that I give back to these communities in a big way and we really do, like we've been doing it for years, and the last time I was in the Philippines, we did multiple feedings of places that we've been giving back to. Oh, this is nice. We did multiple feedings of places that we've been giving back to for years.

Speaker 1: 1:03:31

Oh, this is nice.

Speaker 2: 1:03:32

Yes, because all the kids, like you know, did these, you know performances and all of the adults. It's for kids, senior citizens and disabled individuals in six different areas, and also stray animals as well, because there's a lot of stray animals.

Speaker 1: 1:03:49

Oh, this is also nice. Well, because there's a lot of this right now.

Speaker 2: 1:03:51

So we make sure the kitties and the puppies get fed and, yeah, we do a lot of charitable work as well, which, once again, that's why I believe in supporting women, because I do feel that we're not as power hungry controlling greedy motherfuckers, and when you put money into our pockets, we are more likely to give that back to the community and to find different ways to, like you know, share our wealth and our abundance.

Speaker 1: 1:04:24

Yes, yes, yes, yes, Brittany, thank you so much for your time. Thank you, I will be so happy if you will do a second episode with me. I would love to yeah, because also for me, since I was now 12 years in the industry, it's yeah. There was so much new input. Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 2: 1:04:51

I mean, even after coming back, after you know, I took that decade off and then coming back, it was like oh shit. You know like, yeah, a lot has changed in a decade. But you know what? That's the great thing as well. Once you learn how to run a business, you can apply those skills to any business, so you can jump in. Yes, as long as you are somebody that's always willing to learn, you're always willing to change, you're always willing to adapt and you have a love of new technology, you'll be fine yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:05:27

Okay, thank you so much. Would you like to say something for the models of our generation? What would be the best tip for them?

Speaker 2: 1:05:42

Resilience. Resilience is the best tip, and a big aspect of that is to be kind to yourself. I know it sounds like very trite, but what you say to yourself about yourself really makes a huge difference in your ability to continue to be resilient. Also, once again, just make sure that you look at this like a business. Take it very seriously. Take your paperwork seriously. Your know, take your paperwork seriously. Your content management take it seriously.

Speaker 1: 1:06:17

Oh my God, we have to talk more about the paperwork.

Speaker 2: 1:06:23

Yes, Paperwork, content management, your production, your post-production, you know, work your ass off. But also have a spa day, girl. Have a spa day.

Speaker 1: 1:06:36

Yeah, okay, that will be the best tip ever Again. Thank you so much. Keep learning Keep learning, keep learning yes.

Speaker 2: 1:06:44

Keep learning. Yes, I love it and love all of it. It's you know, it's never the destination, it's the journey, because once you get to that destination, you'll want a new motherfucking destination. So make sure that you enjoy the journey while you're on the destination.

Speaker 1: 1:07:00

You're right. You're right, okay. Thank you so much for your time.

Speaker 2: 1:07:06

Thank you, sugar Plum, until next time.

Speaker 1: 1:07:09

Thank you, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.