Sister$Cash - Sisters in Cash
This business podcast offers valuable insights and advice for entrepreneurs, business owners, and industry professionals. Each episode features expert guests who share their experiences out of their real life and knowledge on a range of topics, including marketing, finance, leadership, social media and more. Whether you're just starting out or looking to take your business to the next level, this podcast provides practical tips and strategies to help you succeed in today's competitive market. Tune in to gain valuable insights and stay ahead of the game.
This business podcast is hosted by Viking Vanity , a mainstream Model, YouTuber and Sales Manager, with more than 10 years experience in Social Media .
Sister$Cash - Sisters in Cash
From Insta-Dreams to TikTok Tactics: A Creator's Guide to Social Mastery
Imagine pouring your heart into a digital canvas, only to watch it disappear without a trace. That's the stark reality Roxy from the Netherlands faced when her Instagram and YouTube presence were abruptly erased. Join us as we unravel Roxy's story, journeying through the labyrinth of social media's unpredictability and the emotional rollercoaster that follows an unexpected platform ban. This episode isn't just a tale of loss; it's a treasure trove of insights for creators braving the wild seas of online content creation, with a raw look at the personal impact and the quest for a comeback that defines the digital age.
Transitioning into the tactical, we share the battlefield of Instagram growth and the covert operations behind a successful TikTok launch in the US market. I open up about my own content shifts, from bikini shots to fitness inspiration, and the strategic maneuvers needed to thrive amidst algorithmic tides. We delve into crafting a unique voice, the significance of a US phone number for TikTok analytics, and the fine line between an active social presence and digital burnout. Our conversation turns into a masterclass for those navigating the ever-shifting sands of social media, focusing on engagement, virality, and the creative hustle hidden behind every post.
But it's not all strategy and warfare; the episode also embraces the softer side of our digital lives. We talk about juggling the demands of being a parent while chasing professional dreams, the reassuring power of community, and the importance of nurturing our roots amidst the growth. As we wrap up, we highlight the anticipation that buzzes around supporting each other's endeavors, reminding listeners that the journey to success is paved with connections that reach far beyond our screens. Tune in for an episode that's as much about the heart as it is about the hustle, where every creator finds a reflection of their own story.
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Welcome to another episode to the Sisters in Cash podcast. This podcast is featured by creatortrafficcom and modelserchercom, your adult friendly media platform, where you can get fans and subscribers for free. The more you post, the more fans and subscribers you will get. So today is my guest Roxy. Hello, Hi, she's from the Netherlands. Roxy, tell us something about you, please.
Speaker 2:Hi, I'm Roxy, a mom of three kids, 34, from Amsterdam, and I'm working as a model for 13 years now. But also the spicy platforms.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so, honestly, guys, we was talking a little bit before, but Roxy has some really nice input because she lost her Instagram account, right? Yes, of course. How many followers do you have? 50,000. 50,000, yeah, that's a lot. And also, you had your account for seven years, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, true.
Speaker 1:And what was wrong with the account?
Speaker 2:I said nothing, but Instagram said I was a nuts person behind the accounts and it's got permanently banned.
Speaker 1:But that's really special because you had a blue check mark before right, true, and then you removed the check mark.
Speaker 2:Yes, and within one month my account was down. Yeah, I don't know, I don't understand, but we keep going strong.
Speaker 1:Okay, but another special you also had a really big YouTube right.
Speaker 2:Also true. Yes, and also removed. Also permanently banned. I can't create any account over there anymore. Nothing, no, no, no. Lifetime banned. I can't even watch or log in on YouTube to watch other people's videos. I have to create a new account with a new email address, everything Otherwise I can't even watch YouTube videos. Like I'm a criminal or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Wait, you okay. Okay. Also, we have to do this podcast, Save for Work, but you are lifetime banned, so you can create a new account.
Speaker 2:No, no. If they found out that it's my new account where I can watch some tutorials or anything, they can remove it too.
Speaker 1:But why? What have you done? I didn't do anything.
Speaker 2:No, I was vlogging, so I made vlogs of my life as a model. So I also had behind the screens from photo shoots, but not fully nude or anything, just the normal things, and if you want to see the nude one, you can subscribe, of course. So I had it nicely done. But in one week I lost my YouTube accounts, my Instagram and my backup Instagram. So I think there is someone behind it that everything was banished. It has to do something with that, because otherwise I don't understand why I lost everything.
Speaker 1:Also, I don't hear this from YouTube. That's weird.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, they say it was pornographic and things like that. Yeah, and it was, and you tried to get it back or not. Yes, I tried. It happened two days before and I had contact with YouTube also with Twitter, youtube and they got it back. Two days later it went permanently back and they don't want to do anything about it anymore. Yeah, I've got all the screenshots.
Speaker 1:But let me understand it right your Twitter you already have.
Speaker 2:Yes, a Twitter issue I just have by Twitter and at Twitter I tried to get my account back because you can also send YouTube support on Twitter and you're helping you over there Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's really helpful information. So if you have problems on YouTube, get banned and it's connected with your Twitter account. You can get help from Twitter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't, even it's a link to each other. I just sent with my Twitter accounts help sent from YouTube I don't know five years ago so I don't exactly know the name anymore, but I will look for you and they said we're going to help you go inside out, and I got it back. Only two days later it was gone Apparently Nice.
Speaker 1:I didn't know this, because what's that Twitter to do with YouTube? But it's nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the help surface is better at Twitter.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, so you still have your Twitter. Yeah, you also have started with a new Instagram account, right? Yes, true, yeah. And when you had this big YouTube account, was this your mainly traffic source? Yes, it was.
Speaker 2:It was worldwide and I've got a lot of fans coming all over the world, in Peru, Mexico, everywhere, so my fans. I love that because now the algorithm is more on the Netherlands and Belgium and those are different kinds, but you know.
Speaker 1:Netherlands and Belgium, for you is a lot of money, girl.
Speaker 2:I answer. But yeah, the Dutch people are Dutch people. Sorry, not sorry, they are, we say in Germany, the same.
Speaker 1:If you're German, you don't like to have the German users.
Speaker 2:Is it true, because I know the Germans are paying much more than the Dutch people do the Dutch paying much more than the Germans? I think it's because we're from different countries and we like, yeah, from all over the border.
Speaker 1:Okay, because that's really interesting, because now you can also upload YouTube shorts and people mentioned that it's bringing a lot of traffic. But also TikTok and Twitter started now with the long form content, so up to one hour if you have a Twitter premium. And also TikTok is featuring the landscape videos and videos over one minute. Up to one hour. They are pushing Also with voiceover. Instagram is still doing the same with voiceover. So maybe it's a good way for you, if you can't use YouTube anymore, to use Twitter about this and TikTok.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think because I was vlogging and TikTok and YouTube. I think TikTok is the new YouTube. Youtube isn't the same anymore, like it was, so I think I'm going to move my things to TikTok.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have all your content, just upload it.
Speaker 2:It's a total other person.
Speaker 1:Don't worry, because content is content.
Speaker 2:That's true, but my youngest is over there like six months and she's now six, so you can imagine the difference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, but content is content. You can write something like. You can also create something like maybe six years ago it was like this, and the next minute you showed the live from today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a very good idea. Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 1:I also look on my model accounts who have nearly 20K on. I had also 200K on TikTok but they put from now, so now I have 20K. But look on my Sisters in Cash podcast. On TikTok I have five followers, but I have five times more views than on the model account. So because it's over one minute and it's landscape, it's working. Definitely I'm going to try.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's why I can also create my flux again with my pro camera. Yes, and I can upload it. Can you also upload on your desktop, or is it only possible with your phone?
Speaker 1:I know I think that's on your phone, but if you have this in your gallery, yeah, of course I will upload it. I do the same. I put all what I'm filming with the podcast, I put it from my database, I put it on the gallery and then also from this I'm cutting the reels out and doing the captions and anything I love. Capcast Also what I hear about TikTok, yeah, so it's a social media podcast today.
Speaker 1:So, what I hear about TikTok is when you have the premium version but it's only what I hear the premium version from CapCast. You created the videos, use effects or something, everything in CapCast and upload it with the premium version on TikTok. It should get pushed, yeah, because, look, they like to make money with it. They also push everything for what you're buying, really, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course, if they can make money, they can make money.
Speaker 1:And TikTok is really TikTok. Also, I think, have two creative programs. If you sign up to one or so, you have to do a research with one and it is because I didn't even know anymore. But then your views are going down because they don't like to pay for your views.
Speaker 2:No, of course, yeah, I understand. Yeah, it's the marketing thing. You know it or you don't. I hate it, it's a really Look.
Speaker 1:I was doing because I was stepping into this TikTok thing again with my modeling and also the last few weeks I was doing some research about Instagram. I was doing it every day. I'm now watching one, two or three videos and put some notes out of it from the Americans. Put some notes out of it and try it, because also yeah, because Science 2024 started TikTok, I think has a new algorithm. Instagram definitely has a new algorithm.
Speaker 2:I also got the new policy. It's starting from March one March, yeah, I don't, I'm going to wear.
Speaker 1:I have to Close like this Something like this.
Speaker 2:Because this?
Speaker 1:is also fair, because the last three weeks, oh, everyone, everyone, really everyone got right now how you call it? They got some notifications about the content, yeah, and nobody know why.
Speaker 2:I really don't understand why it's getting worse.
Speaker 1:Nobody understand it. And then you write to Instagram. Then they say, yeah, it's a mistake, we are sorry for this. So, okay, yes, but you still have your yellow check mark on the contest stats. It's not green again, it's about all the models. All the models have it. All the models. Yeah. So, and now I was thinking, okay, just start to post something with jacket on, like this and just try, but you know, oh, this is working.
Speaker 1:Yes, but all the models have it, so even me. I have a fitness account. You know, it's really where it closes their stuff.
Speaker 2:Like yes, because with fitness, you Of course you must show the shape and everything. People are referring to the things they like, they want to grow to.
Speaker 1:And also we have to take care of what we tell the people in the podcast, because some haters are out there and maybe they say, ah.
Speaker 2:But a haters gonna hate, and I think then you're successful. You only are successful if you're having haters. It's like this.
Speaker 1:It's like this, yeah, but yeah, social media got tougher and tougher, so you have to understand what it likes and this educational content of vlogging or voice over and show your personality, and so also people like to learn from you or get some benefit out of the content. That's working.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm pulling every note now.
Speaker 1:You have the podcast now for it. But also on this point, a platform came up. It's modelsearchercom. Modelsearcher started. It's an adult friendly social media platform. So it's everything is safe for work, but it's just not safe for work when you log it in. But from where you can send your traffic to only friends or wherever, also to a fan center for whatever, everything is possible. And the cool thing is, the more you post, the more the platform will show you.
Speaker 1:So you go up, yeah, in the algorithm and that's great and if and you know we have a lot of content, yeah, even me. So shame on me. I started also with my profile there, I think on this, but you know, then you missed the post and then I got subscribers and they told me I, because I'm always asked where do you find my profile? On the search, on the search machine there on this page. And then I think, yeah, then I realized I uploaded my profile there and from there you get the traffic. Also, there are some tracking links so you know exactly how many people are head up to your account and something.
Speaker 2:It's really it's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and you don't get banned, all right.
Speaker 2:That's always. You get so demotivated by every time you lose things. You work so hard, so many hours, and it's got me to a point two years ago that I thought I just give it up. No, no, no, never give up, never gonna do it.
Speaker 1:So that was some, I think three years ago. Also, we was talking before that. I started from a real bikini account to head up to a fitness account because I was thinking fitness clothes. I also can show my shape you know like this, and also I started to unfollow all models from the industry but I told them, so the real clothes ones. I told them hey, I like to change my algorithm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can just follow bodybuilders right now. I make them as my close friends. I make them as my friends, I interact with them, I like them, I comment An algorithm those.
Speaker 2:Yes, correct.
Speaker 1:So even now, I don't like to follow girls from the industry, but of course, they understand I have an industry account for this. But also the problem is that, for example, you are, you are, you post in the story. You take a lot of girls from the industry who are banned. Yeah, yeah, your account get on a risk too, and a lot of people don't understand this and that's the problem. So that's why I'm always stay safe. Just follow fitness people. But also even fitness people get blocked because they showed their shape from behind. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But then it's cool if you have also normal stuff like fashion, like you also had before like fashion on your account. Yeah, normal, not only bikini bikini because that's not working anymore.
Speaker 2:No, of course not. And I also think if you show too much on your accounts, yeah, what's the thing on the other platforms then?
Speaker 1:Like I always yeah, I always say think about what. Will you show your, your, your child, who are maybe 12 or 13, because Instagram is after after 13 or something like this, from 13 years. Yeah 13, 13. What will you show them? It will be your own kids and if you have this mindset and think about this, then you don't make any mistakes on Instagram.
Speaker 2:Of course, no. No, it's not, because it's a family friendly platform so yeah, and my oldest is 14. So I understand. I don't think he's liking seeing mommy laying down full injury Every just like this. So I'm really thinking about it and sometimes I think it's more classy and sensual, if you are.
Speaker 1:It is. Look, if you look at your outfit, people love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:People love it. You know, and this is also. There are so many. If you're looking at the views, if you really sit down and think or take a research about what's trend and not yeah, so, for example, there's some trends. So there's, the account is calling creators, it's right now from Instagram and they show always the trends from the months. So yeah, and then you, for example, there's the trend, now you open the fridge, then you open the fridge again. You always had a different outfit. So in this point, you can do something with jacket, something with bikini, normal t-shirt, just make it a little bit sneaky, of course, and that's working, yeah, but if you just post something.
Speaker 1:Okay, if you have your, if you have on all your, on all your body tattoos, then it's no problem, because the algorithm will wouldn't show you like naked.
Speaker 2:No, no, because your your colors, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, you have to be a little bit, a little bit cool. So also like, for example, there's a girl. She's just and I think you was doing the same she's just working around with high heels and jeans, really crop top, but she have, yeah, and she's just going into Starbucks, she's just going buy some food, she's just walking around. She's got so much use.
Speaker 1:Yes, I've got the same and that is social media and that is marketing. Not sitting on the bed and show you in a bikini. That's not marketing. You know, you have to be creative.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of that on the internet, so be, different. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to create a new Instagram account Again, not the one.
Speaker 1:But you know that you have to use also. So don't use your phone number, don't use the email number, don't use the same name and the best will be don't connect the account. No no, no no, never I can share.
Speaker 2:Maybe with my account. I have now sharing that account, but not that account sharing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Even when you are in settings and Instagram, you can put two accounts together. You know if you are.
Speaker 2:No, no, don't Account visible? I don't know how Just go log out, log in yeah.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:That's how I did my backup account, so the account I have now.
Speaker 1:On another phone. Yes, I have three phones I'm working with.
Speaker 2:I address everything because they're VPN everything. Just to know I'm not. I'm not Roxy, it's me on the cover.
Speaker 1:I was sitting here, I was disconnecting all the accounts, with the emails, with the phones, with the lock ins. Yeah, oh my God, put their accounts there, put this accounts there, put this accounts private, their business there and this there.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. And if people say we don't work, go do something, just work Okay.
Speaker 1:But, but, but okay, so you also was big on TikTok right? Yeah. Okay, have you ever used the US phone or something for TikTok? What I phoned for US yes, and it's working, or not, because I was. It's working really.
Speaker 1:Wait, I had the same because now you had the stats, you can check your viewers. Yeah, and I had on my US phone. I had the US ones. Yeah, normally people tell say normally people say TikTok is blocking VPN. But I don't think so because I'm working with VPN. No, it isn't. But yeah, you have to create anything new. And my friend of mine, she told me two days ago US phone isn't working anymore and I have a new iPhone. I have another iPhone here. Do you think it's working right now or it was in the past? It's working. Are you still using?
Speaker 2:it. Right now I'm not still because it also was blocked, but my US account, that was a big one really, really it was a real big one. I cut 100,000 of followers over there Only from the USA and around that kind of area. I used SIM cards from the USA, a phone, I bought everything from there, vpn.
Speaker 1:Also also US iCloud.
Speaker 2:US iCloud ID no. I didn't have iCloud. I created the things live on the phone and placed it and it was working, so, just so, it was your phone.
Speaker 1:You don't make it like a new phone. It was your phone and then you just put a US SIM card inside.
Speaker 2:I bought the phone from the US. I bought the SIM card from the US. I thought my mind was if everything was from there, maybe it's working. I don't know, but I think it's the SIM card who does the work.
Speaker 1:So, girls, we are here to helping other girls. We are not like a lot of people who don't like to help models, because models sometimes are. We give you now something input how the US phones are working, because a lot of agencies are working with it.
Speaker 1:And then the girls don't say it, don't say it, don't say it. So the agencies told me have a, for example iPhone. Yeah, for example iPhone. Just set it back to anything. Put the S-SIM card you can buy it on Amazon put it inside, then start it again. Create a new Apple ID, create anything new, just don't put your local service on never.
Speaker 2:No, never.
Speaker 1:You can go on the Wi-Fi, put your local service out, use, for example, vpn I use it VPN, she use it VPN. Then created a TikTok account from this phone. Then what I hear? Just wait for two or three days, do nothing with this account. Then start to follow maybe 50 girls who are in your niche like comment, like comment whatever. Then start to post the three TikToks per day, but really safe, fully safe completely safe, Normal things yeah.
Speaker 1:Normal for I don't know, three or four days, whatever. Then change your bio, change your name, change your profile pic, then your account is safe and then you can post every day three TikToks, but between the TikToks it has to be minimum two hours. That is what I've heard about the TikTok account.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard also from management, so I know people from the HGD having eight phones from the US with US cell phones, sim card things working on VPN minimum post three times a day but at least two hours safe. I didn't know about the three days delay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I think what I understand, that the TikTok is checking the first three days. What's going on on this account. Yeah, but they make also tests. They don't know it exactly, so that's why I'm asking you if it's working also with.
Speaker 2:I didn't try it like that. I just went online from day and it was mind blowing really. I went so big.
Speaker 1:It's a very small time really Because maybe because I was also I have now to do the US phone, but I didn't know if I should create a new Apple ID or not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't do anything. I didn't create. No, apple I didn't create.
Speaker 1:But you needed to get a TikTok on it to get apps on it.
Speaker 2:I have the same. Soon we go maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe I think also did much easier.
Speaker 2:I had the same soon. Yeah, my normal phone. I always had a Samsung. I just switched.
Speaker 1:I heard something also about this year with Samsung.
Speaker 2:So with Samsung I didn't have the problem. But before.
Speaker 1:You never know if it was your US, if it was your visitors, but now you can see it in the status yes, really cool.
Speaker 2:The statistic. Yeah, you know which country are watching the most, and for you page, of course, and everything.
Speaker 1:You see everything. But other girls told me right now US phone isn't working anymore. But we will see. But yeah, it's a lot of work. Yeah, but did you had one account on the phone or more accounts, three? And you post three times per day. Yeah.
Speaker 2:At that time I was really serious. That's why I'm saying, when at some point I was getting so demoted because I lost everything I know it's not a right mindset really, because you have to go through it and I took myself back and just go again and again and again. I go every day, I go for it, but at that time I just like why I'm working 18 to 100 hours a week and for what I do I still do. I love my work, I love what I do.
Speaker 1:I can sit on the couch, and so that's not I have to For me the time. Even when I have, maybe, I take and my even when, at the weekend, I sit here maybe, or lay down for one hour, just no sound, no TV, just a candle on to hear it, my dog next to me and you can hear him breathe, and just lay down here, nothing, that's the only thing what I'm doing. I don't play games, I don't watch TV, because when I sit here at the weekend watch a movie, then I'm thinking, hmm, how many can I make now in this time, right now? And then you're still checking your phone and you're working, send DMs, chatting, make money.
Speaker 2:If I can do this, I can do that, I can do everything.
Speaker 1:But I think also yeah, but this is if you have a really business mindset. I can understand the people who sit down and really do nothing.
Speaker 2:Now some people are having crazy luck, I guess, I don't know. Luck is something you create. I think If you sit down and do nothing, nothing's going to happen. So some people are. But some people are going one time viral on TikTok and now earning $10,000 a day with their thing, but don't do anything on their accounts, Don't post every day. I'm like what am I doing wrong? But no, let it go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sometimes you also have to step back, but I think it's even also. I'm now posting a lot on my German TikToks and I can tell you they're not growing. I don't get views anymore, but I think because I was blocked one time.
Speaker 2:but it's really long time ago, then you have to create a new one.
Speaker 1:If you blocked once, then but even if you create a new one, they told me you need a new phone, you need a new email, you need a new name. No, it's not like this. No, no, no. Maybe you should check my accounts and tell me what's wrong.
Speaker 2:Did you open up a new one on the same phone, or are you?
Speaker 1:posting at the same. No, it's not the same phone, but I have now my free German ones at the same phone.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I don't know, because sometimes when I just think, ok, I focus on Instagram instead of TikTok, then for four months I don't do anything on TikTok. When I come back and I post, after three days you see the grow again. What? So maybe, maybe is that I don't know if that's a possibility, but I have it now for two times that I just think not now and I focus on other things Twitter, instagram and I get back on my TikTok and after three days again they're blowing again.
Speaker 1:I had the same with we it's if I don't post for a long time, I post again. They blow up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and sometimes it's also with Instagram.
Speaker 1:I lost my account. Sometimes it's good not to post and do nothing Really.
Speaker 2:If you stay on the same level again and, again, and again and I had all the accounts I only agree Degrees, so I lost my account. But when I lost my account, someone got it back years ago and it was mind blowing. I didn't use it for six months, of course, and I used it again and the views were. I never had so many views, so sometimes I think, if you just let it go for a long time, Let it go for nothing.
Speaker 2:And go back and I think you can like a reboot. You can go, yeah, yeah, instead of buying new phones and new things and what I really don't understand.
Speaker 1:I was growing on X a lot, yeah, and now it sucks. But I think a lot of people have this problem and I really don't understand.
Speaker 2:At one day.
Speaker 1:Up down.
Speaker 2:Up down. It's one day I see 200 in difference. What?
Speaker 1:we are doing wrong. Before they mentioned they will push video content. Then I started video content, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it's something, some kind of bug, and it's Twitter, I think, because I never had it. I don't see hundreds of new followers back, but I see the whole time.
Speaker 1:I just saw the new feature on Twitter. It called Space. Wow, that is so cool. And you can look, you can go online my voice, so you are online by voice all the time and people can come and talk to you, but you can invite them. So you can create, if I understand it right of course, I had to do more research about it yeah, so you can also create fan groups or odd calls or follower groups, whatever. Yeah, it's really cool. So you can create your dream audience and you can invite whoever you like, so also big ones, you can invite to your space and then you can talk to them and it's a really cool feature, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like a podcast or something. Yes, correct, yes, correct.
Speaker 1:Wow, really I have to understand how it works to make it work as a podcast, because you also can record it.
Speaker 2:Really. Yes, I'm going to look into it Because I think it's very smart and everything new, but I think it's a Twitter, so a X.
Speaker 1:They don't like that we mention a Twitter. It's an X, it's an X. Yeah, I hear about it too.
Speaker 2:It's an X.
Speaker 1:It's an X premium version, but it's really cool. I was quick into it and then the guys come inside. It's wow, it's like. Also, I think, because Instagram have now the broadcast channel yeah, yeah and also. This is really cool, but because I also read something. Read something about the broadcast channel, because then there's more interaction on your account and they push this also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they love the interaction. Yeah, engagement is everything.
Speaker 1:Engagement is everything, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, on every platform really yeah.
Speaker 1:So I also was thinking about to start a broadcast channel, but yeah, I don't know exactly how it works because you have to take care of what people will write there. You know that's always a mess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm sense. Do you have time?
Speaker 1:I have to make the time that's the thing. You can't work all the time but look, if you start a broadcast channel and people write something stupid, what's against the terms of service? That's the problem. I don't have the time to take all the time care of it. That's why.
Speaker 2:No, I understand. Yeah, yeah. Of course, one by one. You have to look everything through. So this is my thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that is what it is, but yeah. So I don't know what's right now the best platform, but because it seems like a battle, yeah they're. All platform here they come up with so many news New things.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's not funny. Tiktok is mind blowing, so we've got reels. Tiktok of X is now using other things, like one hour stream, like.
Speaker 1:That is, but for me. For a podcast, it's amazing, but for a normal content creator, what will you do? I don't know One hour Q&A for one hour. That's a good thing, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Q&A.
Speaker 1:Also, instagram will push carousels right now.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So they Carousels with a photo, with a video. The best thing what they like is like you make a first pick like a story time. So for a first pick, like I was in the kitchen, I started my day like this. So then you write something into the pick. Then the next maybe is a video. Then I go out like you are vlogging, then I go out in the city.
Speaker 1:Then the third thing of the carousel you just doing a pick. When you are into Victoria's Secret, I should buy it. Then you show something, then the next one. You know like a little bit story. They are also pushing this.
Speaker 2:I hear about it. We try it all.
Speaker 1:There's a lot to do, girl, a lot to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've done it enough three times, so make my day.
Speaker 1:You know that's also. There are a lot of agencies at the market right now, but the problem is you have to find for yourself the best agency who will help you, because I don't think it's all about trends on the platform. It's not about this you need an agency. Who really understand TikTok?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's. They only think about money. They don't think about the person. They only think about money, creating as much as money in the last time period of time. So it's not personal anymore. They're pushing you. They're pushing the models to do things they really don't want to do, but they already buy the custom video things like that. I hear so many things. I had a management. I tried it for six times. I like a management who is helping me with the marketing, because I'm not a marketing chick.
Speaker 1:I'm also like this, but they don't Don't touch my accounts. Yes like that. I'm searching for this agency. Who only helping me with TikTok, because I don't have the time to do this research with friends and everything I've never touched my accounts no don't talk to my friends. I never found a really good agency for this.
Speaker 2:So, agencies.
Speaker 1:Reach out to us. If you are our agency, come on, we want, we're in. Also what I hear Also some statistics shows it. A lot of girls are going online right now on Twitch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a gaming girl, I love gaming.
Speaker 1:I do it Because the views since 2019 are nearly to double.
Speaker 2:Now on Twitch Really, yeah, but I'm only gaming on a PlayStation 5. And it's difficult to stream. What are you?
Speaker 1:playing. Give me some, because I have also one. What are you playing? A Call of Duty of course it's good. I have fairy potter.
Speaker 2:I've got the same. I have a whole garden and a horizon. I'm always working, I go work.
Speaker 1:You can link from Twitch to everywhere. They are telling you on Instagram hey, I'm online on Twitch.
Speaker 2:I have to look how it works from the PlayStation, Because from the computer it's very easy to stream, but with the PlayStation it's difficult to have a camera and focus on your gaming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's not working. I had this, a group of girls. We would like to film us when we are on Twitch, to go online on Twitch with switches. That's not working. You can only do it by.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with the PC it's the most mainstream thing, of course, but I'm not a gaming girl with VRPC. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1:You have to take the research. I think we are now in 2024. There must be a thing where you can show the thing from your TV or something. Are you playing and put it into Twitch?
Speaker 2:Yes, of course, that's what I'm looking for. If that's happening, if I know exactly. Oh, I think it's perfect because I can game a lot more.
Speaker 1:I think I will also start with Twitch this weekend. Maybe we also can go online together. I like that. I think that can be really cool.
Speaker 2:You're playing whole guards on PlayStation.
Speaker 1:I have it, but I never had the time for it. Oh no, Maybe we should do it again.
Speaker 2:I'm very curious in which category you're coming.
Speaker 1:I think we should meet one time and film this when we are playing.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I saw live streams with Fall Guy. Do you know Fall Guy? No, it's so stupid. It's a game and you have to go Wipeout. Do you know Wipeout? No, you're only working. You don't do anything. I don't do anything, you're only working. It's a game, players, with some you have to run to be the first one, but there are obstacles you have to climb, jump everything. Very funny.
Speaker 1:I play Super Mario on my Switch. Ah, yeah, it's just to come down with my head, I am here.
Speaker 2:Call of Duty isn't working. I'm only getting aggressive when I say I'm going to relax now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was also a lot of gamer girls. I don't know if I followed the wrong ones, but I think it was also hype.
Speaker 2:It was a hype years ago and now, yeah, I think it's the same. I didn't see it much after, as I saw it in 2019.
Speaker 1:Because you don't follow them. Yeah that's super.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1:But, also this wasn't stupid because they sit there nice and close.
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course Some people are cosplay or anything like that, but you can also sit normal, but I also heard about Twitch.
Speaker 1:You have to be really consistent and consistent yeah, of course. Yeah, careful and really consistent, every day at the same time. Oh, really, I think so. It's like also, if you like, to go on Twitch.
Speaker 2:I think those people doesn't have kids. Yeah, I can be consistent at one time with kids. It's no possibility. Good.
Speaker 1:That's another life If I won't have kids. I, with this mindset I have now, yeah, I think I have to enjoy.
Speaker 2:I forget it sometimes. I really forget it.
Speaker 1:My mom died really early. You have to.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry for this. No, thank you. She was 54, but I think every time what if I'm that kind of age and I'm only with the working mindset I want to be. Of course it's also for them, but I think they are more happy. We also have a little bit more free time together, so sometimes I have to remind myself and hope Ruxy, hold down, take a breath and enjoy the moments. It's just small little things, it's like you're right.
Speaker 2:But it's hard, definitely if you're there are love signal moms out here, we're our dad and a mom and our everything and it's so hard to do. Really, how can you go work and enjoy and put all the balls together? It is impossible. So I totally understand, but please for the moms out here also enjoy.
Speaker 1:Enjoy. Yeah, yeah, you have to find. You also have to stuck into one thing and you can't stuck into all things you know.
Speaker 2:No, if you go at one thing, you can give yourself 100%. If you do multiple things, you can 20%, at least 20%. Nothing will be a great success Because you're pushing everything with a little bit of amount of your energy. And if you do one big thing, it's 100% you can give.
Speaker 1:Yeah, also, I was talking with a friend of mine yesterday, with her also about Twitch, and she also said, hey, when we should do this, I say I didn't know cooking together, I didn't know I love it? Yeah, of course, but you know, that's the traffic, that's the traffic.
Speaker 2:We all need traffic Marketing, everything is marketing.
Speaker 1:I even didn't know why all agencies are just focused on this fan platforms. I understand, because it's money, but hey, there also has to be really good agencies, so really good marketing agencies. True, the problem is by the most of marketing agencies, they don't know so much from social media like me. That's the problem, because I watched every day You're a detective, yeah YouTube videos. I do a lot of research and I'm trying to do. You know, I'm trying to understand anything. You're going to start the finishments I mean, I was thinking about this.
Speaker 1:but you know, people are like, they just like to get all the information and so don't give the information. I give it already in my pot, but I love to help girls. You know, every day come new stuff out, so there's no problem yeah. Every day news about social media pushing pushing pushing.
Speaker 2:And I was thinking, if I can go to the top and I can bring someone with me, why not?
Speaker 1:That's the point, but a lot of girls don't understand this.
Speaker 2:I had this, no, but there will be lonely. There will be lonely. I'm always girls helping girls, that's the most important Just be generous and lovely and happy yourself and don't jealous or and fight people, just because that's a very bad karma and very bad negative energy and really it is like this coming back.
Speaker 1:But you have always we met, guys. We meet and we met in Amsterdam. Yeah, this girl, so I mean you. She have an amazing energy, so positive and just dancing and she was like an energy ball.
Speaker 2:I don't see the room, I'm just there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, girl, you was amazing, your, your over it was.
Speaker 2:My thing. I wasn't talking to many of the people over there, but I saw you standing there and I was in my five and we got connected and, just like today, at the same time we were, you were sending a message to me, I was sending a message, so it was crazy.
Speaker 1:Even look. But the party fan center was doing for the girls. There was amazing because guys fan center so I'm working for fans and through awesome sales and rocks is also now a platform and it was crazy. They started this dinner and come together with all the girls from the Netherlands or a lot, yeah and wow, it was an amazing really. Networking also for the girls to know each you know, to get connected models, to shoot together, to do content together. It was amazing. This party, really Wow, it was mind blown. This party. It was not really big. What it, how, how was this place called? Uh, it was a supper club, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, this party with the team. It was amazing. I'm so thankful that I staying there. Yeah, guys from there, I also know Roxy because she was so. She was so lucky. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:I was there four weeks later for dinner with her friends and he said hey, you're from the party. Last time it was me.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, it was. It was amazing, I'm so yeah.
Speaker 2:And normally a content creating is as working as a content creator is a very lonely job because you're almost every time are you on your own.
Speaker 1:You're on your, but you're and you're only working, working.
Speaker 2:And so it was so great. The sense center put this party dinner thing up and connected the people, the people who come, and I also could bring my partner or friends or anything. It was so great and the five was so good, and knowing the people now behind the sense center is also very yeah, I love it really.
Speaker 1:I'm guys. We have a really cool team. I think sometimes they're going a little bit crazy with me because I'm often in my model mindset area. That's for the best you have to trigger it. Just like the model, but the model but the model.
Speaker 2:But I'm from this because but it's all about the models. Without models, there's no money.
Speaker 1:Yes, so it's, it's working, but I can tell you, we are, I was so. I was also for a long time an exclusive German webcam model on a really big platform. And. I know a lot of platforms, but we are really really model friendly platform.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I always think I have only fans after F2F and I've got the sense center, but sense center for me is the most exclusive one. Help support within two minutes.
Speaker 1:Hello, you have the best manager ever.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:She's a hardworking woman and she's so intelligent. Wow. She's only working and she's fine. For everything. She finds answers and solutions. Yeah.
Speaker 2:If it's something wrong. I always hate it to send her a message because I think, oh no, I don't want to complain or anything, or if something wrong. But you can always do it, Laura, but I think, oh my God, maybe she's stressed or she's working and I'm going also with my problems. But you can go and see.
Speaker 1:Oh, she's amazing. I learned also a lot from her.
Speaker 2:I love her and I love her vibe. Yeah, she's doing so much good for other models too.
Speaker 1:Really she's doing, she's doing and she's really kind hearted, golden hearted person.
Speaker 2:She can be tough. I think, I think she can be tough.
Speaker 1:She can be yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that must be. In this industry you must be tough.
Speaker 1:We also. We slept in LA in one bed and all of a sudden we are really good connected. Jealous, I'm so jealous now. No, she's really amazing and she's doing a really great job. So she's really how you call it when you are really so serious, when you are really really good and talk to the big agencies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she knows everything, I think she knows everything. She knows everything. I have something one minute I get the answer like okay, how do you know everything?
Speaker 1:She's also. Her models are the most successful models lately. Yeah.
Speaker 2:A heart. It's a work in mind. Shout out to.
Speaker 1:Laurel Yay, okay, yeah, girl, we were talking a lot, so wait, is there something more? What are your plans for the future? Tell me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just in business, Of course, growing growing, but also. No, no, no, yeah. I like to do photography a lot, so get a lot of jobs as a photographer. I hate this Really. Yeah, yeah, so that's also very nice.
Speaker 1:And I hate this word also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so if I say very fast, no one hears. But I like to have girls also out with with IDs and things and creating content for them. I'm a girl and also doing the same thing, so I think it's also a very nice thing to do. But I want to make Roxy as a brand. Roxy must be a brand and like in um.
Speaker 1:Don't tear this to many people.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll be quiet now, but that's my dream. Yeah, I know. Yeah, roxy is going to be a brand. I don't want it, but it's going to be. That's the mindset. I love it. Yeah, yeah, and I'm working hard for it. So it's, it's going to be success.
Speaker 1:It will be girl, it will be yeah. Also, you know um what you can also help girls to film some TikToks. Like you know, we have this problems to film outside TikToks. Maybe also there's a good way to make to start a business to help girls with this. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Things like that. I like to help. I like to help, I like to to please people, but also connecting and but never forget your own business.
Speaker 1:No, this has to be your prayer, a priority, you know priority?
Speaker 2:Yeah, of course so, but there are two different things. So it's it's the creative part, or creative me parts. Do you know what I mean? But this side I want, this is what I want, but because this, for me, is the future.
Speaker 1:We also have an our age. We have to think about our future, and that's the point. If. I would be 20 with this mindset oh my God, I will be rich.
Speaker 2:I was rich. Really. I'm living on the Bahamas, sleeping my cocktail right here, but you know myths are the highest ranked category. I also think you can do this job at every age. Why? Your personality Also, and there's a niche for everything.
Speaker 1:Correct.
Speaker 2:Some people also like granny, but also.
Speaker 1:You have to. Also. You have to because you know social media is going harder and harder. You always have to do second business, what's mainstream, what you can push and you can put your also your heart into it, you know.
Speaker 2:You get energy back, other kind of energy back, so you can grow again. And yeah, do your thing, yeah, and yours.
Speaker 1:What are yours, my plans? Okay, so you know I started this podcast and I think it's yeah, you know it's it's so this podcast for X. To explain it, guys, it's not that we have a really big Instagram or something, it's just an industry, so really deep in the industry podcast and we have a lot of people, a lot of companies, are here in this podcast or like to be in this podcast, and then it's really nice. I started this podcast to help girls with some tips and tricks, because I don't have the time to make a big Instagram, to create some designs.
Speaker 2:I don't have it.
Speaker 1:You know you don't have the time. I like to give something to the girls, to get in touch also with the girls, because also for me it's benefit If some girl come inside, she tell me something new, she tell me about her life. It's also sometimes so a lot of inspiration and also a push. And so even you with free kids and big YouTube you know I have also YouTube, but it's not big because I don't have the time for it but you have also. You have a lot of experience in social media. It's also we are vibing, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And yeah, it's also all these connections between the girls. I mean, we are the new generation. I'm on this. Conferences and shows, science, 2012. And I know really everyone also before the time of fan central.
Speaker 1:I started as a model in the industry, so, but I know really a lot of. I know a lot of people and contacts are anything but even me. I also like the future. So this podcast is a little bit mainstream, but I like to go much more deep in the mainstream. Yeah, that is the thing what I can tell you guys. I'm working on it, but I don't like to tell you more about this thing will be really big, really big. It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not. This will be really big and this will be my future. Yes, yeah, but of course, also, my Twitter is running good, with 160 K. My Instagram, 111 K. Then now I like to start the. So push more, tick tock. I like to push more, maybe, maybe, which, but I'm I'm a person I only like. I only do what I like to do. Yes, if I don't like to do something or I don't feel comfortable with it, I don't do it. No, true, that's the good thing.
Speaker 1:If you're working for yourself, you can do whatever you like. To do it, yeah, but and my heart definitely is into fitness, yeah, so I need it for my soul.
Speaker 2:So if you do, the best energy and that energy can you spread over all the other things. But you need to get energy from something.
Speaker 1:And that's a fitness. Fitness, yeah, that's great. People tell me from where you get the energy to get every day, or six times or five days per week, to the fitness. Because I'm not on the gym, I can't work, I can't deal with the stress, I can't deal with pressure, I can't deal with your release in the gym. Yeah, yeah that's yeah, my soul can breathe in the gym.
Speaker 1:It's like this, but it's great, I'm really, I'm really jealous of that, because I I want that to like diet right now is not so nice, because there was a point where I like to go on stage. But the thing is, you don't, you don't get anything for it, you don't make money, you just pay for it for your business. And diet like this is not working because I, you know, I have to work at home. I saw, I work.
Speaker 1:I will be there for my family. I will be there for my free businesses. I have already.
Speaker 2:And with the thing I have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have to think clear and yeah With what you can do that after the stage what will happen then. You know it's like also. Then a lot of people get problems with their mental health after the stage.
Speaker 2:Did you already on stage? You are already on. No, never.
Speaker 1:No, I, I would like to go two years ago or last year. Yeah, I was at the point where I like to go, but then I was. Then I was there. I was say, okay, the diet is not a problem, 12 weeks or 14 is okay, but After the stage, the reverse diet, yes, and to accept your body to go like this again, yes, of course I can deal with it. So I just cousin with my coach. I like to be in shape 12 months, not shapey shape, not really credit.
Speaker 1:I can be a good shape. Yeah, 12 months I can eat something. Of course, I just have my diet. I can live. Yes, that is for, that's for me, is working, but not up and down and Not working for me, I think it's not healthy. Also, on a content creator, it's not working.
Speaker 2:No, of course not, of course not.
Speaker 1:It's not because you have. You have the guys they like. In my case they like muscles, then they like the. I was really curvy, then I have the really curvy ones that I like, then I was really skinny.
Speaker 2:So and everybody, and then they're yeah, they just going coming.
Speaker 1:just one, just one.
Speaker 2:That's not. That's not working, so that's not working.
Speaker 1:So I decided for myself Right now I'm doing a diet To a point just to make the body clear and get all the head out of the body, and then we start to get a little bit more, but healthy, to a point that I can be, that I can hold this shape for 12 months.
Speaker 2:But it's for you. It's for you, it's for you. What is for you the best, what's what's for you think is, this is what I want. This is what I want to achieve.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Now I feel great and a podium is shredded. Personally, personally, I don't like this really shredded, cutting thing.
Speaker 1:No one like it.
Speaker 2:That's the thing, even me I don't like it, but it's achievement you want to see from. Look what I've achieved. This is I don't like to get really shredded.
Speaker 1:We don't go really dry, it's just to a point, you know. Just be there for yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's where you're going, and I think this for the best.
Speaker 1:really, I think the same right now it's hard, but I can feel I always was thinking why the people? My diet, but I can wait, you get, you get really tired. Yeah Of course you don't have the energy energy.
Speaker 2:You don't have to call it that's. How do you say that's a?
Speaker 1:go yeah, I have 40 cups per day. Yes, no, three times per week 40 cups, oh my God, oh my God. The cups are not the problems for me, the fats if I have also three days per week no fat, and that is hard for me. So no, no egg yellow and that is hard for me.
Speaker 2:This hurts for taking the food, but the carbs are your energy.
Speaker 1:Yes, but that's your fat also, really. Yeah, fat is giving you also energy. So when you can't everything out, just eat and, for example, meat, egg white, nothing else, and salad, oh my God, but you can feel how the body is craving to sugar. Yeah, but also in this diet, I understand, I understand. Even for me it's not allowed to add, to eat red paprika. It's calling paprika, you know this why? Because it says a lot of sugar, really, the green. And then I understand how, the how, the industry, the food industry, money to later.
Speaker 1:Everything is sure all the things inside science. I'm doing my diet. I had a really good skin, anything, because I'm just eat clean and then you understand what. But when I got the cravings, they poison you. Sugar. I understand what is this for drug the sugar, this.
Speaker 2:I think it's the it's worse, it's the most worse drug ever sugar. It is. I've got HD ID, somebody know? Hey, I've got it. That's why I'm full of energy. But in my mind is I need my coffee. My mom when I was young. She gives me a brain or a thing.
Speaker 2:Foods always with for sugar but yeah, I know so I learned myself to lower down my sugar and when my kids were born, is it all your child abuse because she don't give your kids the sugar? No, mom, your abuse because you give the kids the sugar. That's not good.
Speaker 1:Also, that is what sugar is is pushing ID ID.
Speaker 2:It's the ID.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes it is pushing yeah.
Speaker 2:So I have to clean everything. I don't do it, but I have to clean everything. I've just one sugar. Now it's time. With my coffee and with my food I don't put any sugar, anything at all. But it was a mindset, because I grow up at the time. Nobody knows, nobody.
Speaker 1:Nobody knows for me, for me, for me, for me, because I had, I had a lot, of, a lot of it, yeah, yeah, when I was a kid. I never eat chocolate or something, but I'm thankful to my mom for this, because I don't. I don't have a, I don't have cravings for chocolate or for sugar things. Just if I start, of course, if I start with something that I like to eat.
Speaker 2:It not your, your monthly thing, your girly thing.
Speaker 1:I'm more this girl who like to eat pasta.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:I start with triples.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and and olive oil, garlic and everything. Yeah, sorry, your dad is no, we don't talk about any pasta, and or we like broccoli and rice.
Speaker 1:I can't eat broccoli, I eat just salad. No, salad tomato, how it calls this long one.
Speaker 2:Come humor, come come come, come, come, come come come, come, come. Like this, come humor Okay, it's a little bit Dutch, a little bit English. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:English. Okay, yeah, there was a lot, and is there something else maybe? Yeah, YouTube isn't working for you.
Speaker 2:Now but.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry to get to get to get to get a new YouTube really took us a new YouTube, which we will you cooperate with other girls in the future, of course, of course. Okay, good, so maybe if you are also from from the Netherlands and you're searching for a good photographer, roxie is for you. I also will put a Roxie's contact details. What's the best for you? Instagram or email, or what should I put down?
Speaker 2:Just for now. Instagram. Yeah, instagram is, is, is my, it's all my mainstream thing.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, okay yeah, I will put it down. And yeah, if you have questions or something, just feel free to reach out to Roxie.
Speaker 2:Yes, thank you so much, really do you like yeah, you like to say something else? I want to. I want to thank you for the job you're doing. Be aware for the other girls helping them know. Really, you're doing a really good job and thank you girls. It's a big place with so much information but not the real deal, and you are talking about it, so thank you. Thank you so much, you're welcome and thanks for having me here.
Speaker 1:Thank you that you take the time and be to be a guest on my podcast with love. Thank you, girl, and yeah, you will go back to your mom work now, right I?
Speaker 2:go to a mommy. The kids are at home. They're upstairs now. I saw the coming. This is sweet.
Speaker 1:And they and they was, and they was so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I'm going to enjoy the gist and hello from school and then going to work again.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for this. Thank you, and yeah, I will reach out to you also after the podcast to send you anything, grace. Thank you, girl. You too. Bye, bye, bye. This was amazing.
Speaker 2:My cheeks are frantic because of the Really good, really good.
Speaker 1:Also, out of this podcast podcast I can put a really cool wheels out because you can feel if people vibe, you know, and it's not only business and no, it's just not.
Speaker 2:I can be, I just trying to be a business woman. I, I am not. I'm not a business woman, I'm just, I am who.
Speaker 1:I am, but don't tell something that you like to start with a brand or something. Yeah, and, but it's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think this is very for future and if I create the name now, I just go, just go flowing.
Speaker 1:I guess you can also check out and for example, marike Fox she's from Germany and Lexi rocks. They started in the past also with brands and they are really successful now.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:But it's the car and I think it's the car car influencers.
Speaker 2:That's okay. I can create a niche and from there I can start. I think I'm going to do it, and now I've got my networks already, so that's great.
Speaker 1:Also ask Laurel about it, because she knows, I think, also a lot about this and she's really good to find solutions for this Of course, laurel, she is. What can I? But you know, maybe also you can ask her to help you with YouTube. I don't know, but maybe she have good contacts at YouTube.
Speaker 2:No, it's okay, it's been out. No YouTuber anymore. Tiktok is fine, twitter is fine, instagram, I think it's okay. So that's why three kids, it's a lot I can tell you.
Speaker 1:I can tell you what I'd like to do in the future. Yes, I'm searching now for an investor for a really big podcast about mainstream, but really big with own studio and something, because podcasts are really really well. Yeah, that's the future, Both cause I would fit with fitness. You know I like to have fitness, but I need a lot of money for this because you have to fly people inside the studio.
Speaker 2:And sometimes I think people are thinking too big.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we like you, also for the marketing you needed, because I can see now how also Instagram this Instagram from sisters and cash isn't growing. No, true, it's not, but I have cool girls on it. They are girls. They reach out to me also companies they like to pay to be in the podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but not the amount you need. I know what you mean, I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1:So I also have a sponsorship now and I'm really proud of this for Wow and also this guys I know since 12 years, you know. That is why I know all the people from the industry. Yeah. You've got a big network.
Speaker 2:That's great you need it.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I will start also with this podcast. I also have a Twitter for this podcast and I have 1800 views on my on my TikToks with this podcast. Yeah, not followers, but people like to watch this reels.
Speaker 2:That is so great.
Speaker 1:If I upload the podcast also on TikTok and Twitter, I think this can work really well. Yeah just go this one now. Yeah, of course, but don't wait. People are all I'm starting. I have my TikTok account, I have the Twitter, yeah.
Speaker 2:People are always waiting for the right time, but there isn't a right time.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, you have to start. You have to start also this podcast. I started, I just started.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's great, it's working and really what I said I mean is because there's so many super companies.
Speaker 1:they reached it out to me, told me hey, can we be in your podcast? It's so cool, but I have to take care about that so I can go with another fan platform.
Speaker 2:I think they're going to be very angry. Yeah, but it was really cool and what are you doing for, for for Centro?
Speaker 1:Sales. I have also my models, but I am from the Dachmark, germany, austria, but also I have, I think, free or for Dutch girls. I need more Dutchies, because you know.
Speaker 2:but you're doing the same things. Yes, but why I get in contact with Laurel from the first time? Why not with you? Because you are from Germany, it's my next country, she's from Spain, but she reached it out to you. I don't know anymore.
Speaker 1:Just come to yeah because she was focused on the Dutch market. I was there, for I was focused on the German market because I didn't know that there's so so much potential about the payment. Yeah. About the ideal? Yeah, but I'm trying to get new Dutchies right now, but the problem is Laurel has the most Dutch girls. Everybody's already a.
Speaker 2:Laurel, she's like a shark. She's always saying, hey, do you know this girl? Do you know this girl? She's perfect for this job. She's always asking me.
Speaker 1:I know she's amazing, she's amazing.
Speaker 2:But now I know this and I can send them to you if you're like.
Speaker 1:No, she will hate me.
Speaker 2:Why Should we go crazy?
Speaker 1:You have to make your own money? Yeah, but I think I also will ask a girl, Nina Amlang.
Speaker 2:Nina, yeah, Nina.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's so cute, she's my model yeah, I also was thinking where I can get bar database from Dutch market. But maybe I have to go into clubs in Amsterdam or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hey, hey.
Speaker 1:It's difficult. I don't know if there are platforms, because the best is if you have some emails or something you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think it's because on Instagram you are market as bar material right to the models often, so I have to find a new way. I was thinking the last days about it how to get new models from Dutch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, most new models are. Yeah, I think, I think, because the most models are already doing it for a long time. Sorry, I'm sorry. Can you make some now Like tip it so grow into the? No, oh sweet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was thinking about how to get a database, you know, with models and emails and something.
Speaker 2:Are you okay if I can smoke pictures? Yay.
Speaker 1:I have mine also, but I'm just like she's shy, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah also secretive. Hmm, we're still close, but you can also go down. And can I also drink a little secret? I've got my own personal bottler. We call him Miguel. You met him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have a nice sofa.
Speaker 2:I think that's a great word. I'm always laughing at those words. I'm sorry, but so far, so far. This is very I like it. We call it how it's still, or couch in English. In Dutch it's bunkstel and bunk and bunk, bunk, like a thing and your sofa. I think I'm always laughing at this word. I don't know why, but it is my.
Speaker 1:Oh oh my God, is this nice, nice girl so this is my really cool with the background and anything.
Speaker 2:It looks really good yeah right, everybody was laughing me because I want my walls black.
Speaker 1:No, that's nice.
Speaker 2:I love it. It's classy style. I think it's okay.
Speaker 1:It's nice girl, oh nice Hmm.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that? Where's? The?
Speaker 1:little one. You know what's crazy that you are saying yeah, you know, that's Dutchies. For us, the Dutch market is the best market ever.
Speaker 2:It's so fucking. I don't understand, because oh, they're so cheap, they don't want to pay anything. Everything is oh, can we do it for a little lower price?
Speaker 1:I always say I hear this from a lot of models.
Speaker 2:I always say it's not a market where you can can some trading or something. This is the price, Otherwise you can fuck off. Yeah, I'm fucking hateful at the moment. Fuck you, I have.
Speaker 1:I definitely I have. But, girl, you have to start with the Twitch when you are gaming. You have to take a research if you can make the, because a lot of I hear it from all people right now that the girls are starting on Twitch. Also, instagram stories Do you see that they are linking to Twitch? Not linking direct. They just say I will be on Twitch.
Speaker 2:I'm on Twitch. Yeah, don't say word online. I did it to Fence. Intro yesterday of Wednesday, my four posts went removed from my story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to know. You know what is the problem that you share the link, which one you use.
Speaker 2:My referral. So if they are going, if they are directly link.
Speaker 1:You have to take care on Instagram.
Speaker 2:No, not, not a direct link. I have a referral, so it's it's not the same link as WWFence Centralcom. No, the referral link. So if they are subscribing, I get money from everything they buy.
Speaker 1:You mean central profits.
Speaker 2:Yes, I thought my mind was they don't see that as the banished link and normally it works.
Speaker 1:But now, because I said life, Online lives you don't have and also it's not allowed. Maybe that you stand in front of a shower and say would you like what's happening here? I didn't do that?
Speaker 2:I didn't do I just I go live in an hour, just be there. She finished every four, four posts and like what the fuck? You have to take care with it.
Speaker 1:We should, really we should meet sometime, because Amsterdam is not far away. Where?
Speaker 2:are you from?
Speaker 1:You already told me yeah, north of Germany, it's over Hamburg. But look my dog, if I him, if I put him in the hotel yeah. I, he is nearly to Ostfriesland. Oh really, it's. It's so maybe you know it's Ostfriesland, it's not far away.
Speaker 2:It's from for me an hour away, If I got to the dark.
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, and then I can put my dog there and come to Amsterdam for two days or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or I come to you, I rent an Airbnb somewhere. I travel to Southern Southern. Yeah, you can also come here. No, you have your kids and your kids and everything.
Speaker 1:I'm alone with my kid and my dog.
Speaker 2:I don't want to be in your pricy life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on. Yeah, but but yeah, we can help us from each other. Ticktocks, yeah, I would love to go for a good good go for a good dinner together, because we have a really good place here where, where the toilets and everything is so nice we can go there for a really good dinner and create some ticktocks there and have a good dinner and anything. Wow.
Speaker 2:What do you guys? Do? I'm open for it. I think around, yeah, summertime. I think it's the best because the weather and I'm totally fully booked till till May every weekend.
Speaker 1:Really. Yeah, with your, with your, with your photos.
Speaker 2:I'm not modeling anymore because I quit modeling, but I've got appointments of here working together with other creators Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's do it. Let's get you something and then we do it a weekend together and just the content, like ticktocks and something, social media anything.
Speaker 2:I would love to really and also, if you like, I don't know what kind of content you create. Do you also have a spicy page? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but I can do good, can also do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can. We can do it Sure.
Speaker 2:You can come. It's my middle one. I'm here. My middle one is what's her name?
Speaker 1:Gigi? Hi Gigi, I'm Jesse. Nice to meet you.
Speaker 2:Nice to meet you. They can look you to a motor. Nice to meet. Very good what's wrong, just go play. Oh no, no, the little one is also coming. Oh no, she's got to send the real address on.
Speaker 1:Oh, really no. Let's just watch.
Speaker 2:You can go, come, come, oh nice Hello.
Speaker 1:Hello. What's your name? Where are you? Very good, hello, jessie. I'm Jessie Ask for our drinks Nice. What will you do with the girls at the weekend?
Speaker 2:I'm going to ask for the drinks.
Speaker 1:What will you do at the weekend with your family? Do you have plans?
Speaker 2:This weekend. Tonight we go out in Amsterdam, Go to Kassar.
Speaker 2:Yeah you told me Tomorrow the best friend of my oldest one is going to stay over here for sleepover. She's from Germany. Her nephew, their nephew, is living in Germany. You are living in Germany, michelle's. My husband, his brother is living, ah really, where? Woh, miss, wohroth, wohroth, I don't know. Wohroth, wohroth, what's my castle? Castleau, castleau, I don't know. In Germany they're always having different words. They're honest, I know. Yeah, but in Germany, castleau, nice, is it in the south, michelle? It's two hours away from the border, a little bit south.
Speaker 1:In the south yeah not north. Yeah, okay, then it's far away.
Speaker 2:Koblenz.
Speaker 1:Koblenz yeah, it's far away.
Speaker 2:Hi there, what hour away from Koblenz.
Speaker 1:Yeah, far away. Yeah, yeah, good. Thank you so much that you take the time and that you made it work also with kids and family and anything, of course.
Speaker 2:Also on a Friday? Yeah, but on a Friday. Friday is the best because he's always free on a Friday. Now, Perfect. I've earned enough money now, so he's working now four days instead of five, so this makes me most happy really, so he can do kids, we can create a hard school content on Friday.
Speaker 2:Friday is content day, nice, yeah, we have to. Yeah, it's worth, because the other years it was so. You know it's so much and I'm getting very easily depressed I don't know, it's because of my HDID. I try to do my mindset every time, but sometimes it's so.
Speaker 1:You have to do some meditation also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have to.
Speaker 1:That's the most important. Yeah, try, and I'm not just doing it, because, also for this, because I'm also I'm just running, I'm just doing I never can sit down. This is really good because you have to. There's also really yeah, there's also really cool apps to learn it. Yeah, and it's called. Yeah, you have to check in the store, but it's really cool, yeah, and it helps a lot to set anything.
Speaker 2:I really need it also for me to plan some me time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I'm working or mom, or running to know you have to do a me time, mine, my mom also will take my son from Saturday to Monday, right, because Sunday is a Super Bowl party. I like to shoot something there, like for social media, great yeah. And also Saturday, I like to create TikToks. Normally my friend of mine would fill me what. She canceled it, so fuck, I like to do something like Mercedes Blanche. You know in the in the, how it calls fast elevator, elevator, yeah.
Speaker 2:I like to do something in the elevator and hotel. But she canceled it and just walk through. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And. But now I am alone. I have to create my TikToks alone again.
Speaker 2:It's so. It's extra work. I hate it because you now need your status. How do you study?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you can't do it in a hotel, you know, I'm just like to walk and someone had to walk behind me and something with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to have a moving content, not static, static, static from one point, yeah. So I understand which thing, but we're always thinking too much Sometime. Less is more. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, really, I was always a perfect like this, a perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect. But what is perfect? Just, they want a contact, they want to see you, they want to see things. So, even the elevator thing, just put up your ring lights, set it in front, keep on the elevator which of a foot record it. Go out, it's opening up and just do it. It's not the moving thing, but it's something.
Speaker 1:But where you will do it. I don't have an elevator.
Speaker 2:Go to an how do you say this? So building.
Speaker 1:And I put my ring light there and people think I'm crazy. They already think fuck that.
Speaker 2:I learned that I was. I never took out on.
Speaker 1:Have you seen my reels in the supermarket with the bikini?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you weren't asking me wait, you can do everything.
Speaker 1:You wasn't in the shopping mall with the bikini. Yeah, what's wrong? That's my normal dress.
Speaker 2:That's not things I don't. I can do it. I'm always ashamed of everything.
Speaker 1:I'm really.
Speaker 2:So what the fuck? Just took your fucking ring light and go to the elevator. Yeah, just ring every doorbell, say hello, I'd go for you, but it doesn't answer. Someone let you in Use the elevator.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you are right, I should do it.
Speaker 2:I understand it's more work, yeah. I wish I could help you If you would live closely, I definitely would help you. But, yeah, this is I know Every people. I think, yeah, this, they are great and everything. They're living far away. I hate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like this Always hey good. Thank you so much for your time. You too, I will let you know when I cut it. I don't know if I will get it, but I will let you know and. I think we had so cool reels.
Speaker 2:Yes, I'm very curious If. I can do something let me know.
Speaker 1:If I can do something for you, let me know.
Speaker 2:I will, I definitely will Thank you for everything.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:And if I?
Speaker 1:have some news about TikTok, I will let you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. If I hear something, I just gonna go Good, I'm going to you.
Speaker 1:That's good, okay, and yeah, have a nice time with your family. I will, and we stay in contact right Always.
Speaker 2:We do we have to schedule? You know we have the connection. Yeah, we already have it. It's the soul.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you, darling.
Speaker 2:Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.
