Speaker 2: 0:11

Welcome to another episode of the Sisters in Cache podcast. The Sisters in Cache podcast is featured by creatortrafficcom, where you can buy traffic for your only fans, and modelsearchercom, where you'll get traffic for free for only fans. The more you post, the more traffic you will get. So my guest today she's really big on IG, that's why I'm a little bit nervous is Kostina Gotkovs. Hello.

Speaker 1: 0:54

Hi, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2: 0:57

Good, I was so nervous because I know you are a TV star, correct? Yes, can you tell us we're cool? Yeah, can you tell us a little bit about you?

Speaker 1: 1:18

Oh, my name is Kostina. I'm from Vienna, I'm 35 years old, but I started my career six years ago as a curvy model.

Speaker 2: 1:34

Then you started right now on Brazos, or it was later.

Speaker 1: 1:38

Oh, just right now. Just a few months ago, they discovered me on Instagram, but before that I was, I wasn't doing anything in this direction. I was a good girl, I was a curvy model, but because of my big boobs, I had more jobs for lingerie and bikini, which is it went straight into this direction, and then I became an influence on Instagram. I grew really fast, to my surprise. I wasn't doing anything, it just happened like that. And then I started doing TV shows in Germany and Austria. I started off with plenty of dating shows, which was pretty fun, but then, after a time, I've outgrown this phase. I mean, I still do dating shows, but right now I'm focusing on shows that show my personality. So I'm also doing, like this, celebrity reality TV shows. And, yes, I was doing OnlyFans for three years. And then recently, a few months ago, brazos discovered me on Instagram and we started collaborating.

Speaker 2: 2:57

Nice. So you, you wasn't a long time in your model career when Brazos came to you and like to work with you.

Speaker 1: 3:10

You mean like in my modeling career. I was doing it for like six years, but okay, that's about in the adult industry. I was like three years like doing it on my own with my content on OnlyFans, but I wasn't planning to start the mainstream. You know, it just happened and here I am.

Speaker 2: 3:39

So, and I know you because of Ms Jackson, she was the last episode of my podcast. She's also from Vienna, right? Yes? And yes, and so, guys, we talked before a little bit. It's really interesting because you know I was also a model before. But normally it's really hard between models Models don't always in competition with other models so but it's really interesting. You help it, ms Jackson, ms Jackson help it. You right, just a little bit like we help each other.

Speaker 1: 4:17

Like we kind of joined each other's world. When we met we we were both OnlyFans creators and this is how we became friends, because we had this thing in common and it worked out very well. And then we so we were kind of co-workers, creating content together, potting together, and then we became really close friends and I was doing reality TV show for a few years and and then she joined me in this, like she joined me on a TV show, and then she was working with Brazzers and then she posted a story of us and then the Brazzers produced a song in her story. So it's really nice that friends can really help each other, especially in this industry, and especially women are always in competition with each other. But I think always if you put all your powers together, you can achieve even more. You know, like if she recommends me, I recommend her. You can create a bigger empire instead of thinking so small.

Speaker 2: 5:30

And this is exactly my, my opinion, but also on the German market. Yeah, a lot of girls not like this in the US market. It's another one. They understand how the game works.

Speaker 1: 5:49

I also think, yeah, especially Austria. The market is very small, but I feel that if someone is really happy with herself or himself, they can. They are willing to help others because they don't feel a competition. If they are confident in what they're doing, they know that there is enough room for everyone. But it's mostly the people that are insecure that think competitive.

Speaker 2: 6:19

Yes, correct. Can you tell us a little bit more about the TV shows he was in?

Speaker 1: 6:28

Yeah. So I started off in Germany for Take Me Out. It's a dating show, and they called me for two seasons because I guess I'm very entertaining. You know, I always tried to figure out what my talents were because I always wanted to be famous, ever since I was a little girl. But I felt like I can't sing, I can't dance, I don't know if I can act. But then social media came and I felt like, oh okay.

Speaker 2: 6:57

That was our chance.

Speaker 1: 6:59

Yes, and I thought for a long time. I guess it's because if you're good looking. Oh, I'm sorry, this lash, oh my God.

Speaker 2: 7:09

Don't worry about it. I know this problem.

Speaker 1: 7:11

So sticky I can't move my eyes too much. I thought it's always enough to be good looking. But you know, especially nowadays everyone can be good looking with all that surgery and everything.

Speaker 1: 7:24

So it takes more to that, and I heard from a lot of people. They told me even my friends and everyone who met me that I'm very entertaining. And then I realized that's my talent I'm an entertainer. So, yeah, I'm very happy for this chance. Social media I grew and here I am now. So, yeah. So I was on two seasons on Take Me Out, and then there is another show in Austria called Tinder Reisen, which means Tinder travels, yeah, yes, where you travel the different countries and meet people on the Tinder app, and I was there on two seasons too, and then from that, from then on, I just went to certain numerous TV shows, and now a very big show in Austria, yeah, Can you tell us more about the big TV show, because you told me before a little bit about it and also about your character in the show and I think that's really really, really interesting.

Speaker 1: 8:39

So I think you can compare it to something like Big Brother for celebrities You're locked up with other celebrities in a house I think it's like 14 people and then you have to go through different challenges and then you can win an amount of money. But for me, even if I didn't win the TV show, I feel like I was the winner of the show for my personal overpres страш, in my personal view because I was always this sex bomb, sex symbol, even on social media. People always thought, oh, all she can do is be sexy. She's so dumb. Even on this dating shows I was always the flirty one because I am flirty I love that, I love dating, I love showing it.

Speaker 1: 9:31

I'm not hiding it, but this was just a side of me and this is what I always showed on these dating shows. But with this one big celebrity TV show I could just show my personality, just another shade of me. I don't want to say who I really am, because I'm also this flirty girl, but I'm also this feminist, this strong woman, and I had the chance to show and people see me and it's so heartwarming and I didn't expect that. I can't even explain this feeling. People say that, oh, you said you don't want to be a role model, but for us you are a role model because you know we've been slut-shamed on the TV show. And then I started fighting for my right as a woman, for my right to whatever I choose to do in life as a job. It doesn't mean that I'm stupid or dumb or a bad person. And I got a lot of the answers.

Speaker 2: 10:38

You know, the adult stars in the US are really stars. You know it right. I know they have like the Indiana Awards, like the Oscars.

Speaker 1: 10:48

No, actually this weekend. Yes, when I see this, I just feel like it feels so close to me. Hopefully next year I'm going to be part of it. I mean, I just thought it.

Speaker 2: 11:02

Will you travel to LA next year?

Speaker 1: 11:05

Yes, I was just in LA now a few weeks ago because I got from another production. I got I was booked for two scenes and then the producer told me you're such a good actress. And then he booked me for a third scene and I was just thinking, bro, I'm not acting, I'm just enjoying Really, yes, good, really going well. And then next week I'm having two other bookings with brothers, even though my scenes haven't been released yet From brothers, so they actually don't know if the people are going to love me. But they still booked me. So I hope, I hope it's going to work out for me.

Speaker 2: 11:54

Will definitely when you have this mindset. I know it from myself because I was. I was a little bit like you. Yes, I was. When I was younger, I was like, oh, I like to be famous, like to be this, this, this, this.

Speaker 1: 12:10

Let's be honest about it. Everyone who goes on TV they want to become famous. They lie to the self and the people when they say, oh, I'm here to be a role model, yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:22

But why you want to be on TV? Because you want to be, and it's so funny what you explain it. They put you. They also see the TV shows book you for a role.

Speaker 1: 12:34

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 12:35

And it's so. It's so cool when you find a TV show where you can show your your true character.

Speaker 1: 12:44

Exactly so. I was always booked because I am this flirty, voluptuous girl, so they can put me into this box. Yes, but now that I already have a name in the TV industry, it's just enough to be myself. So there are also some further TV shows coming soon. I am not allowed to talk about it yet, but it's, it's just a great feeling to know that now I'm being booked for just being Costina. It's enough to be just me.

Speaker 2: 13:20

I think you will be really famous also with this mindset, because it's so important to have a mindset.

Speaker 1: 13:28

You know what they say 2024 is the karma year. I believe it. I know, I know and I feel like this year, like everything come, all the good things come Exactly. I'm even too scared to speak it out loud because I can't believe. I'm too happy about it, like the year started off so well. Everything is just coming to me. It's just perfect, you know, when you just attract what you are, but it's in a wrong way. When I started being self-employed, I was so broke. I was so broke for three years because I was working at the airport as a countercler when I started modeling, and modeling was never enough to pay the bills. You get a job here and there. Same with influencers. I was an influencer, I would get a lot of three stuff, but companies never had the budget to pay me or paid me very little.

Speaker 2: 14:29

Always the same.

Speaker 1: 14:30

And then I was always, you know, I didn't have energy. I was always like I can't put my effort into work and I can't put my effort into passion. So I have to make a decision Will I stay on that level for the next seven, eight years, because I was there, or will I take the risk and change? And I have no savings, savings? I didn't know how to pay my bills sometimes, you know, sometimes I didn't have money to go out for a drink with friends because I was living low, low. But I took the risk to achieve my dreams and take the risk or lose the chance.

Speaker 1: 15:09

Exactly, and here I am now. I deserve to be here. That's what I always said. I've been through hell and I know how it was, so I'm good where I am now.

Speaker 2: 15:19

I'm so happy for you, thank you, that you find the way and that you made the right decision. Yes, because In my case in my case was a little bit the other one. I was really famous as a model and then I started, because of personal stuff, to go behind the camera.

Speaker 1: 15:42

But you know, when you was a model one time, I understand, but I also I also understand what you mean, because sometimes you outgrow this face, sometimes you want something so bad, but then when you have it, you feel like that's not it. For example, I always wanted to live in a skyscraper apartment with skyline on top of Vienna. So when I got my first apartment like that, the first night I sat there in my bed looking outside the windows in Vienna skyline and I started crying. I just remember this moment now gets me so emotional. I started crying like look at you, you made it on your own, like you achieved this what you were wishing for, and you made it on your own. So I was so emotional and proud of myself.

Speaker 1: 16:41

But then a few months later I felt so bored I felt like I want to start traveling. This apartment doesn't fulfill me anymore. So when you have it, you feel like you want more or that's not it. You know, and sometimes I'm even when you're growing and you're changing, you feel that these things are not fulfilling you. For example, I always wanted to be famous and sometimes now is getting too much. When people come to me, I mean, I'm always happy and I'm always nice to them, but sometimes I'm not in the mood. Sometimes when they want to take pictures, I don't feel pretty, I'm not wearing makeup and you know it's not people's fault, but sometimes it can get too much. So I understand when you said you were famous and it didn't fulfill you anymore, but you're going to do something else.

Speaker 2: 17:40

So that was the point why I changed my name, because yeah.

Speaker 1: 17:48

You really changed the name Like your real name. You changed it.

Speaker 2: 17:50

No, no, no, no, no, no. The stage name.

Speaker 1: 17:53

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2: 17:54

But my first stage name was so famous, tell me, and yeah, no, I don't say it here, yeah, then trust me, then everyone then everyone know me. And I don't like to, but because?

Speaker 1: 18:08

of her.

Speaker 2: 18:10

Yeah, but it's, it's creepy because sometimes they they send me a message and ask but you are this and this.

Speaker 1: 18:21

Did you change?

Speaker 2: 18:22

your hair color.

Speaker 2: 18:23

No, not my hair color, but I changed it. I was looking like a bimbo before, like a real bimbo with really big, even my head also now, but but this was before. I was looking like a Barbie, like a real Barbie, and but I'm happy that I have. You know, you have sometimes you have to step. I step back to move forward because now I have another priorities. I just like to push this adult thing a lot, just more mainstream and fitness and something like this, because I feel also for me it feels much better and that's me.

Speaker 1: 19:05

I feel like sometimes you go through different stages of your life and you just outgrowing. It's same with friendships or relationships. Yeah, Sometimes you know friends for 10 or 20 years and you still like them, but sometimes you don't have anything in common and you're just holding on to it because you know each other for too long. But you realize it's not like when you were.

Speaker 2: 19:30

And when you have it, it's exactly what you're saying. When you have it yeah, doesn't make you happy anymore.

Speaker 1: 19:37

After a while.

Speaker 2: 19:39

After a while.

Speaker 1: 19:40

I'm also an Aquarius and oh really. Birthday in four days, actually, yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:48

It's my. I don't know what's the word in English, but it's my yes.

Speaker 1: 19:54

Correct.

Speaker 2: 19:56

Yeah, now it's funny, I'm not sure what you're saying.

Speaker 1: 20:01

I'm a Scorpio in my heart, oh my God, it's the same. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2: 20:08

You have two personalities inside you.

Speaker 1: 20:11

Yeah, but no. As Aquarius, we love our freedom and we love to explore the world. It's never enough for us. We're always trying for new things and we're always, you know, asking questions why is this like that? And yeah, we're super curious to change the world.

Speaker 2: 20:36

But you're also really sensitive as an Aquarius, so I can feel it.

Speaker 1: 20:41

I am sensitive, but I can also be like I don't give a F, I can be so careless.

Speaker 2: 20:49

But that's the scorpion in you.

Speaker 1: 20:52

Yeah, could be like it's a mix, you know it is like this Trust me. This means, like an Aquarius is so sensitive, they can give you their all, but in the next moment they can be like leave me alone. They can go to you like I don't care for you no more. Yeah, it's really tricky.

Speaker 2: 21:10

I know, I know, I know, okay. So I have a question, because you told me you have not, you are, wasn't at the typical, typical model way. So, for example, you started with Petrion, right? Can you tell us a little bit from where you was bringing your traffic? Where do you got your traffic?

Speaker 1: 21:38

I got my traffic from Instagram because I was already really big on Instagram before I started Petrion and Alli fans.

Speaker 2: 21:45

I was already a model Like how many followers do you have right now?

Speaker 1: 21:52

I have like over one million followers. Wow, you know it's this body positive movement. When I started, I'm sure you remember where you know body positivity love yourself, and all this movement.

Speaker 1: 22:08

So I just started at the right time and there were all these big pages reposting my pictures. There was this one German page style and curve and she really liked me and she reposted and I gained her. And then other big pages Curvy Girls, vip, and all these curvy pages. They saw me on her profile, they started posting me and this is how I gained like 3000 followers a day and I was growing so fast. What? Yeah, this is how it worked. I didn't have to do anything, I just. I think I just had the support from the right people.

Speaker 2: 22:49

That is. That is really really cool, yeah, but you deserve it I was really lucky for that.

Speaker 1: 22:55

Yeah, I think nowadays it's so hard to grow on Instagram. Tiktok is really fast growing and everyone gets a chance to go viral, just like that, but I think Instagram became really tricky, even for me.

Speaker 2: 23:10

Now I'm not growing that fast, me also, so sometimes if I'm going, if I go viral, then I got 10,000, again 10,000 followers.

Speaker 1: 23:22

but but it's not about the followers. Like I used to be so happy a few years ago, now I don't really care. It's about having a good engagement, a good community. You can have a better community with 10,000 followers rather than with one million.

Speaker 2: 23:40

It depends on you, I know, I know.

Speaker 1: 23:42

I see my community. They hating a lot there. There I mean, of course I have support if fans. But you can see in the sense of hating, like you watching my stuff. You don't like it, you don't comment it, but I see you in my stories, you see all my stories. Or sometimes people are like oh yeah, I saw you on Instagram. You did this, you did that, you were there and in my head I'm like and sometimes it's even my friends and in my head I'm like why you don't show love, why you don't like it, why you don't?

Speaker 2: 24:17

know, I know, I know Always the people in the stories, but no comments, nothing.

Speaker 1: 24:22

Because low key. They're hating because I think it's a very natural feeling in humans, but, once again, it's always the humans that are not happy with themselves. If you're moving forward and someone else is not, it just reminds them of themselves that you are doing better and they're low key hating you. Not hating you as a person, but hating on you, on what you have, what you achieve, because they are not. It's a low key hate, you know, because I think hate is the very so right. No, hey, hey, yeah exactly.

Speaker 1: 25:04

And sometimes it's even your own friends. Yeah, Because that is why I have a.

Speaker 2: 25:09

I have a so small circle because I can't deal with it.

Speaker 1: 25:13

Yeah, I just learned not to call anyone friend. No more Like friends friends. You know, the circle becomes small or small.

Speaker 2: 25:25

I totally understand you.

Speaker 1: 25:27

And I always like that's my friend, that's my friend. No, these people are not your friends.

Speaker 2: 25:32

Because what I was learning the last years it's everyone just yeah, people are looking, yes, Benefit.

Speaker 1: 25:42

Yeah, to take advantage. I mean, every relationship is a benefit when you think that way, even when you have a partner, you benefit. You benefit with love, you benefit with affection, whatever, every relationship in life is a benefit. When you have friends, even it's. It doesn't have to be a benefit in the material way, but all this affection and being there for each other it's a benefit. But when you have to choose the right people, you know.

Speaker 2: 26:12

I know. And you learn this, but but you know what's the, what you know what's the most important, that is, that is equal. So what you get, so what you give, that, that, what you get, you know. So often it's like that you are giving, you giving to other people, people like to get your contacts, like to get your help like to get your input, but don't get it. You don't get it, but you know what I learned?

Speaker 1: 26:39

It's on you. It's on you.

Speaker 2: 26:41

I know.

Speaker 1: 26:42

How you present yourself, because just because this person is using you doesn't mean she's a bad person. She could be such a nice person to someone else. The thing is, people always like to see how far they can go and if you don't show your boundaries, they will always try to cross them because they don't respect you, because you don't respect yourself enough to show them their limits, their boundaries, you know. That's why I started to blame myself, not to blame other people, because I was so frustrated and depressed Everyone using me, blah, blah, blah. And then I realized no, it's not everyone, it's you yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:25

Because these people would respect other people. Why they don't respect me? Because I wasn't respecting myself? Yeah, but it's a process you have to learn. That's why you grow older and mature. Yeah, experience.

Speaker 2: 27:42

Experience, yeah, so are you also working with other platforms than Instagram?

Speaker 1: 27:52

I am on TikTok, but not very active, and I started becoming more active now on Twitter because I realized that's the real platform for the American. Yeah, and I was in a but I have to say something.

Speaker 2: 28:08

Yes, because Twitter also got some problems, the last time with adults. So that is why this platform comes up modelsearchercom, it's a non-safer work platform. It's like you can promote directly from there to your only fans or also other fan platforms, and the more often you post, the more fans you will get.

Speaker 1: 28:44

Okay, great.

Speaker 2: 28:47

We have definitely to talk about it because it's really funny. It's a lot of only fans traffic for free. The only thing what you have to do is to post, but at least you have your content. So it's easy just post, post, post. And the funny thing I was tried out and the funny thing, I got a lot of guys and I'm always asking where do you come from? Where do you find my profile? They come always this searching results yeah, I found you there. I found you there. Then I realized, oh, it was from modelsearchercom. Okay, yeah, and I only started my profile right now, I think one. Yeah, I think one month ago, but I don't post. Shame on me a lot because I don't have the time, because I'm doing the podcast.

Speaker 1: 29:41

I'm working in sales. I'm working as a model.

Speaker 2: 29:43

Yeah, you know, but too many things at the same time. Yeah, but? But there was a lot of people who told me I found you here, I found you there, I found you on this, and then I realized, oh, it was from modelsearcher. Okay, so you definitely have to try it out.

Speaker 1: 30:02

I have to be active on all platforms because you never know where you gain the followers.

Speaker 2: 30:08

Correct, correct.

Speaker 1: 30:09

Sometimes I'm equal to lazy. Oh, not another new platform, but in my job there is yeah, you can't be like you have to be president on all platforms Look look, when I was really active as a I'm also now active as a model.

Speaker 2: 30:24

So I'm posting my TikToks. I posted my Instagram. I'm posting I'm really deep into Twitter, I'm a really big into Twitter. So I also was doing when I was not working in sales because now I'm working for a fan platform in sales and when I was doing 100% my model business. So I had my workflow, my daily workflow also included to take research about platforms, about news, tips and tricks, in terms of service, what changes the last time, and so on.

Speaker 2: 31:04

And that is the problem what a lot of models don't do. They don't focus it or they don't. It's my can you hear? It's my dog. They don't focus it. A lot about all the changes in social media, about the news, about the tips and tricks, yeah, and that is a really big thing. That is why I'm happy also that you started with Twitter, but also Twitter changed it the last time the terms of service, because also Twitter is now featuring more than video content. And I'm also what I think, what I think I don't like to say too much about it, but what I can feel and what I saw on big US creators that Snapchat is coming again.

Speaker 1: 32:01

Oh man, another thing for all the.

Speaker 2: 32:04

But it is what it is. Yeah, it's part of my job.

Speaker 1: 32:08

Part of your job.

Speaker 2: 32:10

So I mean you would like to talk more about I think you were starting to talk about LA, right? Yes, twitter and LA.

Speaker 1: 32:20

So last year Ms Jackson and I we went to the X-Biz Awards in Miami and we started collaborating with some creators and porn stars. Again, we helped each other. I had some creators, she knew some creators, I contacted some and then we collaborated with the same creators. We gave each other.

Speaker 2: 32:48

It's networking. That is how it works.

Speaker 1: 32:51

Exactly, and this is when I realized everyone on there does Twitter and this is how you become really big, Because on Twitter you can also show more on Instagram. You have to be really cautious about what you post, not to get shadow banned, not to get blogs and all that.

Speaker 2: 33:12

But I think for you it's more easy. The Instagram thing because of you was starting as a normal curvy model.

Speaker 1: 33:27

Exactly.

Speaker 2: 33:28

Also, your account got a lot of trust to Instagram because you had some closest. You wasn't the typical adult model, so you was shared by this big big plat. A big big accounts, yes, but also me.

Speaker 1: 33:46

I have to be very cautious. Thank God my profile never got deleted, but I got a lot of shadow bands, so really how you fix it, your shadow bands because you go to your settings you see why you got shadow bands, which post it was, and then you have to delete this post and then you have to be cautious in the future, what you post, not to go against the guidelines.

Speaker 2: 34:10

So you told me you started with Twitter and I think it was a really good decision. How many followers do you have right now on Twitter and are you growing fast or do you have problems to grow?

Speaker 1: 34:26

So I'm pretty new on Twitter and not very active. I just started, so I'm not that big. I have 20,000 followers on Twitter now and I'm growing really fast because my first scene released, like last week, my first adult tape how to say it here?

Speaker 2: 34:50

Say it for work.

Speaker 1: 34:51

yes, yeah, yeah. And then I realized I gained so thousands of followers, so many followers. Or whenever I have a collaboration with, like an American creator who is really big, and then he texts me on his Twitter boom, yes. So really. Yes, it's growing fast.

Speaker 2: 35:13

Okay, so I can tell you something. So I'm now since 10 years on Twitter and I was growing fast. I think I have 160,000 now or something. But the problem was Twitter make a lot of changes. So first I was posting a lot of bikini pics. It was working. Then I changed my content to fitness. It was working much better. I was growing really fast. And then it's stuck and I hear it from a lot of people that it's stuck sometimes. Then I was trying to do video content. I was trying to do high quality content. I was trying to I'm always the person I try a lot by myself.

Speaker 1: 35:59

You always have to keep up with the algorithm. It's the same with Instagram. My Instagram was stuck for too long Like I was growing so fast and then I was just stuck. So they always change their algorithm and you always have to see and if this platform is not for you anymore, you have to change and move to another one.

Speaker 2: 36:21

Yeah and look. And now it's really funny when I get the most retreats, most likes on bikini pics again.

Speaker 1: 36:30

Surprise, surprise.

Speaker 2: 36:34

What I mean, what can I do?

Speaker 1: 36:36

Yeah, but it's confusing, I know same with OnlyFence. They were trying to push the regular content, not their sexy content, but then they realized the sexy content is what they brings them the most money and then they were like no, I think it's for them it's not important, but I think they get a lot of.

Speaker 2: 36:57

So in my opinion, I think the whole thing was marketing moves. I think like this because, honestly, for them it's not important if the adult creators go away. They have a lot of big stars. Yeah, look what Blake China made on Google it, what she made there. So I think it's not important if we are there.

Speaker 1: 37:24

Yeah, but if you want to make money, if the OnlyFence owner is greedy for money, you better support the content creators.

Speaker 2: 37:37

So okay, another thing. I have a question what are your plans for your future?

Speaker 1: 37:49

Well, I just learned not to talk about my upcoming moves. I like to surprise people and I'm also very scared of people wishing me bad, because the more famous you are, the more gory people's eyes, the more people. Not everyone can be happy for you, so even not your own people sometimes. So I just learned not to talk with anyone about my plans and then they will just see it.

Speaker 2: 38:25

Good move.

Speaker 1: 38:27

Yeah, I think so. It's because I was always oversharing and I was always so happy about it, not thinking too much Like I'm a very emotional person, and then I realized sometimes I failed, sometimes I failed, sometimes bad things happen to me, so I thought let's just keep it to myself and yeah, if it doesn't work out, I cannot blame no one but me.

Speaker 2: 38:55

I love your mindset, I really love your mindset. So you was working before you started with your model career at the airport right.

Speaker 1: 39:04

Really for eight years as a counter clerk.

Speaker 2: 39:08

And then you started by your own with everything.

Speaker 1: 39:13

So my coworker showed me the newspaper. There was an Austrian singer who was looking for curvy girls for his music video and then she always knew that I wanted to be famous and a star and a model. And she was like, oh look, christina, why don't you apply there? And I applied and one thing led to another the photographer, no, was it the makeup artist? Yeah, the makeup artist told me she knows the photographer, they're looking for a curvy model. And this is how I got all the jobs, like I had TV spots, runway shows, photo shootings, but I was kind of too short. I'm only 160 centimeters and I was too short.

Speaker 2: 39:59

I'm 158.

Speaker 1: 40:02

You have so many things in common Small woman, big mindset.

Speaker 2: 40:09

We will get it.

Speaker 1: 40:11

Yes, but I could never become that big as Ashley Graham, for example, even though I had here and there, even in Germany, some other shows, but it was never enough.

Speaker 2: 40:23

You had, you had, yes, yes, oh my God.

Speaker 1: 40:26

And then, I just started doing Instagram and I was modeling through photos on Instagram and collaborations and even at that time, I felt like I never expected to come that far. I felt like, even if it stops now, I already achieved more than I expected. But then, yeah, I was doing it as a side hustle and then, as I told you, I didn't have enough energy for both things. I was really not happy. So I had to make a decision and I chose to take the risk and I'm very happy about that.

Speaker 2: 41:10

The most thing is be happy with what you are doing.

Speaker 1: 41:16

The thing is, you have to believe in yourself, no matter what anyone says, no matter how funny it sounds. Sometimes people are also faking it, like, oh, I believe in you, but they'd be thinking bad about you. Like, does she really think she's gonna be faking it Always, Always, yeah. But what I wanted to say is that even I remember having these hard times. Even my mom told me because I couldn't pay my bills. She told me don't you wanna go back to work? I told her no, mom, I gave up my jobs to follow my dreams and I will follow now. I will put my energy in this. And then she said but maybe just part-time? No, that's why I gave up my job to make these changes. So, yeah, I was fighting and I was really broke. Sometimes it was really, really hard.

Speaker 2: 42:10

We was also with this podcast in AVN News.

Speaker 1: 42:15

Oh wow, congratulations. I'm really proud of it. So proud of you, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2: 42:21

so, the sisters and casters podcast the idea was behind not to be a big mainstream podcast, but really industry related, you know. So sometimes it's better to have your niche. And yeah, and you know, I love to working, to work with personalities, to listen to their stories, and I know for a lot of models is it really interesting and a big inspiration. And also, we was talking in the last episodes about social media TikTok, telegram, instagram, twitter or new algorithms or whatever and I think the problem is that there isn't a lot of communication between models, even in the big model base. Yeah, and so, and I think it's so helpful for models if they share their tips and tricks.

Speaker 1: 43:23

Exactly and, as you mentioned, I think in the US is really different, because they all work together, collaborate with each other and when, for example, when they make like a TikTok on an Instagram reel together as a collaboration, they will gain followers from each other. It's a plus on every side. You just have to stop thinking small and change your mindset. If you wanna be big, you have to stop thinking small.

Speaker 2: 43:55

Yeah, it's like this.

Speaker 1: 43:57

As for me, I was always a very sexual person, even before starting all that With my friends. In my friendships, I was always the freaky one, always the one teaching them how to be a seductress.

Speaker 2: 44:15

Yeah, you told me before what's your stage name and what's your how you call it special thing.

Speaker 1: 44:29

Yes, but I was always very freaky. But even me at the beginning I worried about what are people gonna think of me? This is not accepted from the society. Even when I started Instagram and all my fans were asking when you will start OnlyFans, I felt like no, I wanna be taking serious as an influencer and as a model. If I start this, I will not get any jobs. And guess what? When I started OnlyFans, I still got collaborations and TV shows because I was already a personality, because I didn't care.

Speaker 2: 45:05

Awesome.

Speaker 1: 45:06

When I stopped caring about what people think of me. This is when I started feeling free. So at the beginning, like I was very sexual. Obviously that's what I think. I'm in the right job where I am now because this is in my nature. I love what I do, but I was always too scared to show about what society thinks of me. So when I stopped caring about what everyone thinks of me, this is when I became so free and now I'm like yeah, whatever they say about me. When someone calls my mother, your daughter is doing porn. Yeah, so what, whatever, I have a very big support for my family, for my mom and my sister. So, even if the whole world would be pointing and I'm so happy for you, and that's also the most important.

Speaker 1: 45:51

They got my back and that gives me so much strength, so much power. And now when everyone says something about me, I can just laugh at it Like, yeah, whatever you say, I am, I am, I'm living here my best life. You say I'm a hoe okay. You say I'm cheap Okay, you're free. Are you paying my bills?

Speaker 2: 46:11

But the thing is.

Speaker 1: 46:12

That is the question.

Speaker 2: 46:14

Yeah exactly. Your opinion are paying my bills.

Speaker 1: 46:16

Exactly, exactly. That's a good point. But even sometimes, when even women hating on each other sometimes it's the women, you know the Stikme Girls. That's so sad. Women against women. But whoever.

Speaker 2: 46:32

Women against women it's the most horrible thing.

Speaker 1: 46:37

Competitive, but I think this will never change, unfortunately. Anyways, I feel like when people calling me cheap oh, you're so cheap, you're selling your content on the internet, blah, blah, blah. I feel like there are girls out there that send out their selfies, the nudes, their naked selfies for free to man. I get money for it, so I am cheap, you're for free.

Speaker 2: 47:03

That is what I'm saying always. Yeah, that is.

Speaker 1: 47:06

I have a profit out of it. What happens to their pictures? They send nudes to any guys. These guys will send them to their friends or put it on the internet. Whatever, you didn't make money out of it, you know. I just changed my mindset.

Speaker 2: 47:22

I know. I know Because I know.

Speaker 1: 47:24

I know guys would always get excited for my bikini and lingerie photos on Instagram anyways, and now I'm like pay me.

Speaker 2: 47:33

Pay me If you already get my. You know how much girls are chatting for free and are doing this for free and this for free.

Speaker 1: 47:41

So and entertaining guys for free who don't deserve it. At least I get money. Yay, correct what?

Speaker 2: 47:48

Correct, okay, so I have two questions more. What are your next plans? So just, you told me you like to go to LA.

Speaker 1: 48:01

Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2: 48:03

So I don't like to talk about my plans, just a little bit, just your next steps. What's official? I?

Speaker 1: 48:13

hope I'm gonna grow in this adult entertainment industry. Yeah, I already had a good start and I hope this will lead to and I have you.

Speaker 2: 48:27

I think you have a really good girl on your side, and so does Jackson, and I think we support each other always. Yeah, you are pushing yes you support each other and I really like it.

Speaker 1: 48:36

It's good to have a friend in the industry. Yeah, and I think it's really hard for friends to be happy for you, especially if they want the same thing, for example, if you want to be a doctor.

Speaker 2: 48:56

But she's special. Ms Jackson is special. I'm not talking about her.

Speaker 1: 49:00

I'm talking about women in general.

Speaker 2: 49:03

We have a special friendship.

Speaker 1: 49:04

it's different, but it's also because we are both doing good. You know there is enough room for both of us. If you already have a good career going, you can be happy for your friend.

Speaker 2: 49:16

But what I like to say you can be happy if you have people around you like her, Because I know that she's trying to push the people around her also to do better.

Speaker 1: 49:29

I'm the same. I'm also pushing her, I know.

Speaker 2: 49:33

I told you before I really like it yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:40

Pussy power. Oh, this is not safe for work.

Speaker 2: 49:47

No problem, we make a t-shirt out of it.

Speaker 1: 49:51

This was our motto in the TV show. Really yeah.

Speaker 2: 49:56

In which one.

Speaker 1: 49:58

In the first of SRAMPENSO, because I was a feminist there, and then the whole news and the whole motto of the show was like pussy power.

Speaker 2: 50:10

But, also you told me about this TV show Because you was able to show your real character and you don't have to play a role. You got a lot of girls as fans. So your fan base changed a little bit right.

Speaker 1: 50:29

Yes, because it's so easy to get male fan base oh, you're so pretty, you're so sexy, this and that but to get the love from women it's always hard because of the competition thing. But this show was the first show where I could show my personality or different sides of me, and I didn't expect that I got so much love for women.

Speaker 2: 50:55

And I think that's this field special If you get this love from women, it always makes me so, so, so happy.

Speaker 1: 51:05

I can't even describe this warm feeling in my heart, this happiness, and it's a non-profit, in sense of it's not a material profit, or for my career or anything. It's just like balm for my soul, you know.

Speaker 2: 51:22

I know, yeah, I think we was talking a lot. Yes, I love to talk with personalities like you, with this special mindset.

Speaker 1: 51:38

I know you all have a lot to tell. You should write a book.

Speaker 2: 51:43

The funny thing is, a lot of people told me this yes, would you like to say something more, because I think we have to do another episode also. Yes, maybe the future.

Speaker 1: 51:58

It's gonna be too long. The podcast Well, if you guys want to know more about me, just follow my socials. There you find everything and I'm happy to talk with you.

Speaker 2: 52:10

Also, you are linking from your socials to your spicy pages, right, when you know you know? Yeah, okay, guys, I also will link her Instagram and Twitter on the sistersandcashcom homepage podcast site, and yes, I think we will. Yeah, I think we have everything right. It was so nice, yeah, it was so nice to meet you and it was so nice to hear a lot from you. Also because I think also for me, it was really special not to have the typical industry model here, so just more mainstream. It was really interesting for me and I'm really grateful that you had the time to be in my podcast.

Speaker 1: 53:13

Also, I'm grateful for your interest into getting to know me and your listeners.

Speaker 2: 53:22

Thank you, costina, and yeah, I hope we will do a second episode.

Speaker 1: 53:28

See you soon, hopefully. Bye, bye.