Speaker 1: 0:17

So welcome to the next episode of my podcast, sisters in Cash. This podcast is sponsored by Creatortraffic. com, so if you need OF traffic, you can buy it on Creatortraffic. com. My guest today is Amber, little Dutch. She's really popular in live camming. Amber, tell us a little bit about you.

Speaker 2: 0:53

I'm Amber. I'm 21 years old, I'm from the Netherlands, and I've been in the live camming industry for more than three and a half years now.

Speaker 1: 1:02

So yeah, when do you start it in live camming?

Speaker 2: 1:09

I started straight after I became 18. So pretty early yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:17

That's pretty early.

Speaker 2: 1:19

Yes, that is.

Speaker 1: 1:21

Okay, and where are you streaming?

Speaker 2: 1:24

I'm streaming from my garage. I did it for a while inside my house because the garage was a little bit cold during the winters, but right now I'm in my garage again.

Speaker 1: 1:35

Yeah, I see your webcam place is really special, right.

Speaker 2: 1:41

Yeah, that's one of the main reasons I chose to do it from my garage. Personally, it fits with me because I love cars. So that's one thing, and the other thing is that it's a lot more unique than just a bedroom or something.

Speaker 1: 1:53

Honestly, I don't like all the bedroom setups.

Speaker 2: 1:58

No, I personally, I always become really awkward when I'm just sitting and laying on the bed. I don't know. I just like it that I have some space and I can move around.

Speaker 1: 2:10

Yes, I think if you're streaming a lot and if you can do it from a place where you're feeling really good, like the kitchen or the garage or whatever, it's much better.

Speaker 2: 2:24

Yeah, I think so Also for your mental health right. Yes, you have to feel really good about where you are and you have to feel comfortable on everything.

Speaker 1: 2:33

Yeah, I saw also. I can understand that some girls sorry for the studios, but the girls sitting there for eight, ten hours always on the bed and just streaming, yeah and I personally like that.

Speaker 2: 2:47

I have it a bit more separate from my house, like if I'm going to stream inside my own bedroom, I don't know, I have the feeling that I would be always working or something, I don't know. But yeah, it's nice to have it a bit separate.

Speaker 1: 3:01

That's why I love the platforms where you can stream, also from Starbucks from everywhere outside. I think that's so cool for your head because yeah, I think that's also fun, yes. Yes, yes, yes, and I think also the people love it.

Speaker 2: 3:18

Yeah, I definitely think that when you are able to go outside and it's allowed, then, yes, I think lots of people like it because outside is more exciting. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 3:27

Yes, I saw in the past because I have done some research for my girls and I saw a lot of girls. They are streaming also from the car when they are on the way.

Speaker 2: 3:40

Yeah, that's lots of fun.

Speaker 1: 3:42

yes, and you are more.

Speaker 2: 3:43

I don't know, it's a bit more like you can be more yourself or something when you are in a public place or outside. It's different than when you are standing in front of your camera, in your and it's more authentic, right?

Speaker 1: 3:56

Yes, absolutely it is. It is. Can you tell us why you started as a cam girl? So do you know some cam girls before? Or because every girl had a different story? Why they started in the industry?

Speaker 2: 4:14

Yes, honestly, I started it just for fun, because it was exciting and I've been open-minded always. I was like, why not try and see how it goes? But it went pretty well and at that time I went from job to job. I did finish my school, but I never get on with school because that was not something for me. I preferred going to work and do something. But I was going from job to job and didn't really find anything. I don't really like working for a boss and yeah, when I started it went going pretty well. I was like, why not try to do it like full-time?

Speaker 1: 4:58

Hi, you are here. I think you have a bad connection right now, or it's mine. Now it's yours, amber. Yeah, okay, the video was frozen.

Speaker 2: 5:13

Yeah, I saw it yeah.

Speaker 1: 5:14

Yeah, okay, but now it's working again. Okay, perfect, okay, you said it already, it works pretty well. You have more than, or nearly to, 600,000 followers, right? Yes, yes, on the cam platform, yeah that's a lot, that's a lot.

Speaker 2: 5:34

That's a lot.

Speaker 1: 5:36

How long do you streaming? Or how often do you streaming in the week? I am streaming twice every day, from Monday till Friday.

Speaker 2: 5:44

So I'm doing 10 shows a week and then usually three, four, five hours really depends, but something like that In the morning and in the evening. Yes, I started streaming in the morning.

Speaker 1: 5:56

In the morning and in the evening.

Speaker 2: 5:58

Yes, I start really early and I do afternoons and evenings. I changed it a bit now so that I have both.

Speaker 1: 6:07

Yeah, because I can remember that a lot of girls are struggling with the cam times and then they try it in the morning, then they try it in the evening. But yeah, I think for for cam girl it's really important to find the best time, right.

Speaker 2: 6:23

Yeah, I think I think in the end it's funny, because last week someone was asking me about what is the best time to come and I was like I don't really think there was one specific time, which is good, because I think there are always people, so it doesn't really matter. I think the key is being consistent. So I have chosen it Monday in the morning and in the afternoon evening, so you can make it all work as long as you keep being consistent and just just try it for like several weeks instead of just doing one show, because one show doesn't really say much.

Speaker 1: 6:55

So yeah, so you're really consistent with your work, right?

Speaker 2: 7:00

Yes, I am, I am. I hate it when I when I oversleep myself and I I show up too late.

Speaker 1: 7:06

I can't handle that that's my problem. You know me a long time now. I'm always late. That was always my, my, my problem when I was working. I was always too late. So when I say at 10 pm, I was there at 11 pm.

Speaker 1: 7:21

I got up and I was like, oh, I'm going to work, I'm going to work, yeah. And I was thinking when I do my makeup today, how can this girl so discipline and this job because for this job you need a lot of discipline to see every day there For hours At the same time and doing your job? It's three days per week or not.

Speaker 2: 7:50

Yeah, I usually. I usually spend my Sunday off. Saturday I usually do lots of photos and videos, etc. But that's not a day off. No, it's not. It's not on Sundays. Now. I never really have a day off that I'm like doing nothing, I just can't. I always like, if I'm going to do this now, then I don't have to do that tomorrow. So, yeah, honestly not a lot, but yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:17

So you're doing on a Saturday the whole day content right?

Speaker 2: 8:23

Yes, most of it. Yes, I also try to do something during the weeks, but, yeah, on Saturday it's like a perfect day for that, because then I have more time.

Speaker 1: 8:31

So yeah, oh that you know it's allowed to ask.

Speaker 2: 8:37

I am. I am now 21. So you are 21.

Speaker 1: 8:42

Yes, Really yes, I am yes, for real, I'm shocked. I was thinking you were 24 or something, because you are so professional in your work and what you're doing.

Speaker 2: 9:03

Yeah, that's what lots of people say and I like that compliment. Lots of people say I'm pretty major for my age and I almost didn't like that. But I'm like right now I'm still young, so let's now make the best of it, then the rest will come later.

Speaker 1: 9:16

So you can do a lot. You can do really a lot with it. You know, there's a lot of options, are there a lot of companies? They like to work with you, so they're coming and tell you can you be exclusive with us or?

Speaker 2: 9:35

No, honestly, honestly, not, not, not, not companies like that. I do have lots of companies. They are like oh, you can, you can join us and then we will do this for you and then we will do that for you, but not really like we want you to have, like to be here exclusively. I don't really get messages like that, but lots of companies every day on my socials that they, they want to do my work, you know so.

Speaker 1: 9:59

Yeah, I know, I know, Can I ask you what is your webcam? Because a lot of girls and I know this also always asking what's your webcam and your, your, your pictures really clear. It's really, it's amazing.

Speaker 2: 10:14

I have. I'm using a Sony a6600 with a. It's a e2.8. I see right now 16 and then 55 millimeter lens on it. That's the one I'm using. I started with a Logitech Brio and everyone was like, oh, the Logitech Brio is in 4k. That's really nice. The 4k on a Logitech Brio is literally would be like 720.

Speaker 1: 10:38

I have the 4k right now, the Brio yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:41

Yes, but that would be honestly, not even 720p on like a camera like this. There is a big difference. People always be like it's 4k, but 4k is different. Like so, yeah, but that's the one I'm using.

Speaker 1: 10:56

It looks amazing, it looks amazing. Can you send it to me?

Speaker 2: 11:01

Yeah, I will.

Speaker 1: 11:02

I will Because all the girls are always trying normal webcams, but your picture looks much better yeah it is, it's a, it's a.

Speaker 2: 11:11

it's a big difference and that's I will also like. It's all like the same, but it's definitely not the same. But the thing, the only thing I hate a little about this camera is that it's big. So when you have a small webcamalogy tech, you can easily like bring it around, but that's not doable with something like this.

Speaker 1: 11:28

So yeah, I understand. I understand. I have a lot of girls they asked me about honestly to get in contact with you because you're so successful and they learn to like to learn something from you for some platforms and whatever. What will you? What tip will you give girls they like to start in the cam industry?

Speaker 2: 11:59

Well, I will definitely say be consistent and just. I often get messages like that and then I have girls and they say, oh, I want to just do it a few hours a week. And then I'm like, honestly, a few hours a week is not going to work, especially not when you are getting started. There are so many girls in this industry and it's growing every day, especially since COVID. There are becoming a lot, a lot more. So if you really want it to work, then you have to be extremely consistent and put lots of time in it, lots of. At the end you can. If you get a nice following base and you're growing, then you can say, well, I'm going to do a few shows a week, but you have to start and when you want to start you have to do it like lots of hours, lots of hours.

Speaker 1: 12:44

So lots of hours. What was the longest time you was online?

Speaker 2: 12:51

I once did a show that was nine hours straight and that was like not just just sitting around, that was like the name around. Yes.

Speaker 1: 13:05

Oh, my God.

Speaker 2: 13:08

And yeah that was after this.

Speaker 1: 13:09

You, you are totally tired, right.

Speaker 2: 13:14

Yes, completely, and you are in somehow. That sounds maybe weird, but when you have a really awesome show, it's like you're in some sort of yeah, it feels like that you're going to a roller coaster park and you have that trail or something. So it's really weird. But when you have a great show, and such an intense one, I don't know, the feeling afterwards is really good. So you are not even. There are still a lot of adrenaline inside. It really sounds weird, but yeah, so you're not even tired straight after it, but yeah.

Speaker 1: 13:46

What are you doing on these days when you're feeling not so motivated and you're really tired to go online? And what you're doing?

Speaker 2: 13:57

Well, honestly, I personally I barely barely miss a show. Sometimes when I'm like really not feeling it, then I'm like if I'm going online now it's not going to help me, because I'm really feeling bad and then I'm just going to take off and like watch some, some series or movies. But I personally always think that like I'm just going to try it and I'm, I can easily motivate myself, so that's a good thing. But yeah, that's nice.

Speaker 2: 14:26

Yes, it is. But I always say if you don't feel good enough or you're really don't want to go online, then just don't go online. That's really simple, because it works different for everyone. But if you are not feeling it, then you better don't, because you're not helping yourself or your room or everything around it.

Speaker 1: 14:44

So I know, do you have often days where you're not feeling for it, or you say, oh, it's just one, one day per month or something?

Speaker 2: 14:55

No, I sometimes usually I have to admit that I get that at the end of the week, when I had a long weekend, I'm feeling a lot more tired or a bit exhausted. Or sometimes, when it's when the shows are not really going well, then I can feel like that more easily. But I don't have it on a weekly Now. It's usually maybe once or twice a month, sometimes not even. So it really depends.

Speaker 1: 15:20

Nearly online to 28 days a month. Yeah, I got a lot.

Speaker 2: 15:26

Yes, wow, yeah.

Speaker 1: 15:32

Okay, so you are online in the morning and in the evening? Yes, when you are going to the gym or something, because your body looks amazing.

Speaker 2: 15:43

Well, I do workouts at home, so I always try to get it in. Yes, I do.

Speaker 1: 15:52

You have a body like other girls, have to work for every day for one or two hours?

Speaker 2: 15:59

Yeah, I don't. I also don't have the time for it. So, yeah, I do work for it, but not as much as I would like. I would love to do more, but it's just. Sometimes I'm like then my day is over and I'm like I just want to lay on the couch and do nothing, instead of just going to do some more workouts or something.

Speaker 1: 16:19

I understand, and so this is your full-time job, right? Yes, it is. Yes, and you are do camming, and you are on fan platforms too, right?

Speaker 2: 16:34

Yes, I am. Yes, I have that next to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 16:37

Yes, what are your fan platforms? Where are you?

Speaker 2: 16:41

I am currently on FanCentrum and on Fensley.

Speaker 1: 16:46

And yeah, because you know my podcast is sponsored by createdtrafficcom and the thing is normally we like to give you some traffic the worth of 300 dollars for your OF but the problem is OF deleted your OF without any reason, right?

Speaker 2: 17:09

Yes, they did. Yeah, they did two weeks ago, without any reason or warning. So, no, I would have loved that, but no, unfortunately not. I was finally growing, but yeah, I'm just stuck with that right now. So that's why my focus is on FensCentrum and Fensley right now, because I don't have anything else. So I'm just glad it's not my camming, it's not my main thing. You know, if I only had only fans, I was literally screwed.

Speaker 1: 17:34

It's not your main thing. Other girls have to work for this money. You made there a lot or will never reach this, and yeah, I can feel it's also really frustrating, right?

Speaker 2: 17:48

Yeah, and honestly it's a bit scared that something like that can just happen without any reason or without any explanation. I could not even imagine that. That was the only thing I did.

Speaker 1: 18:01

And I really don't understand. Like you said, dead O F, deleted without any reason. Yeah, your account, because other girls are living from this money. You said before it's not your main business, just side business. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, but still other girls will get a completely breakdown about it and you are yeah, but yeah, but I really feel bad about it and really frustrated and I was.

Speaker 2: 18:37

I was definitely at a low point and I was like what's the point of doing all it when things like this can happen without any reason? So yeah, but yeah, I don't know that you can just quit and you can be sad around the corner, but you can also just try to make something else work, because you can turn it around and no matter how many messages or no matter how many things you do, you won't get it back Like so.

Speaker 1: 18:59

So part wasn't really helpful.

Speaker 2: 19:02

No, honestly, it feels like I only got automatic responses, like just automatic, not a real human being trying to give me an honest answer about it.

Speaker 1: 19:13

So you hear that other girls got deleted right now again on OnlyFans2?.

Speaker 2: 19:22

No, I've heard it in the past, but I did heard that a lot of models get more warnings and red flags on content they have posted like quite a while back. So it seems that they have changed some things or I don't know, that they become more strict. I have no idea what it is, but yeah, it's frustrating and it's just scary that something like that can just happen without anything you did wrong.

Speaker 1: 19:45

So yeah, but I'm happy that you focused on Fence and Trojan. So, you have to know, you have to know. So I know Amber because she's one of my models and yeah, that's why we know each other and I'm really, really, really really thankful because she's really professional. She was, she's always in the meetings and, yeah, she never rescheduled some meetings and it's fun to work. All I like, I really like to work with her.

Speaker 1: 20:23

Oh thank you, yeah, because you know, when you have some models and they are really professional and you also can learn from them.

Speaker 2: 20:32

Yeah, that's true, it's a huge benefit.

Speaker 1: 20:34

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 20:35

Yeah, and if someone, if someone puts effort in it or someone is like putting time in it, then it's, it's different as well, it can motivate both. I think, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 20:46

Yes, yes. And also it's really I love also to talk models. They are really, how you call it, big in the industry, because also you learn a lot about, a lot more about the industry.

Speaker 2: 21:02

Yes, that's true. It's nice to have like someone to talk to or to discuss things, because it's like it is a big world, but it's also a small world.

Speaker 1: 21:11

So yeah, yeah, and the things Camming and fan platforms are so different. I'm also. I also came from Camming and all these fan platforms. To work there was really new for me. So to work there, sales was really new, but I also learned a lot, a lot of tips and tricks and yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:38

Yeah, it's nice.

Speaker 1: 21:39

Yes, yeah, it's really. It's really cool because you are on a free, how I can call it. In Germany, it's normal that the cam platforms have fixed prices, and German girls didn't know how the system works with tips. Yeah, I see that I do that a lot. Yeah, yeah, and when I was started, I think 10 years ago on MSC, it was so weird. No other German girls has done it and I was another top 10. But it was so new for me to don't get paid per minute and that's why a lot of German girls was afraid about it. And now the German girls also already started on this cam platforms with the tip system.

Speaker 1: 22:33

Yeah, but yeah because, because the German platforms have a lot of rules, it's not allowed to hear music. You have to do what somebody tell you. And the German girls say, hey, I don't like it, I don't like that somebody is controlling me from a support team. If I do what the people say to me and I think I also had my times it was really horrible. And now the girls are checking oh, it's so cool, I can go there online, I can do gaming in the next, when I'm also online in front of webcam. It's so cool and they like it. They really, really like it. And I think it's so cool that you, that you was growing this how you call it, tip system cam Business so big that you that's that's your main business now and you're making a lot of money. And also you bought a house, right?

Speaker 2: 23:31

Yes, I did yes. Last December I finally bought a house, because it's really hard to buy a house if you are self-employed in the Netherlands, and it's really hard to buy a house if you do something like this, because, even though you don't want to tell them what you do, they still want to know exactly what you're doing for a living.

Speaker 1: 23:49

So is it in Netherlands like this how do you mean like this? So hard to buy a house?

Speaker 2: 23:56

Yes, it is Definitely when you are self-employed. There are lots of reasons when you are self-employed that lots of things you have to do to be able to get a house. Plus, they want to know what you were doing. How do you get your income? How can you prove that you have a stable income even though you're for yourself? Like, how can you prove that you can pay the rest, etc.

Speaker 1: 24:21

Yeah, I understand. I know also in Germany it's not so easy.

Speaker 2: 24:29

No, it's crazy. And because of the garage that comes with the house, it was even more easy, more hard. But why? Because when you have a big garage how do you call that? Usually, a house has a living destiny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because there is a big garage with it, they see it as a company with a house. So then you have to pay at least 20 to 30% straight, else you can get it. So, and the rules are a lot different. So, but I have it now.

Speaker 1: 25:01

So about right now? This is your house, right.

Speaker 2: 25:06

Yeah, this is my garage. I have the house in front of the garage, yes, but this is mine.

Speaker 1: 25:11

So, girls, you can learn from Ember. If you work it hard, you can do a lot. You can grow your future. I think it's amazing You're 21,. You bought a house already.

Speaker 2: 25:23

Yeah, it's great, it is crazy. Sometimes I'm like realizing and then I'm like it is crazy, especially if I look at people the same age as me, then, yeah, it definitely is.

Speaker 1: 25:33

But you worked really hard.

Speaker 2: 25:35

Yes, yeah, that's yeah, you have to. I think it's not just, it's not easy or something like I would never say it's easy.

Speaker 1: 25:45

What's your thinking about to help girls, maybe in a way to do some coaching or whatever for coming?

Speaker 2: 25:56

Well, honestly, I would love that and I'm always open for people to reach out to me. I do find a lot of problem in the thing. I think you see that as well. Lots of girls want to earn money but they don't want to do something for it. So and I'm really busy and I would love to help girls besides the things I'm already doing, but then I just love to have girls that are willing to do it and like to put a lot of time in it, Because it's not helping me and it's not helping them and it's cost me a lot of time.

Speaker 2: 26:28

So yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 1: 26:30

But maybe, maybe it's your future business.

Speaker 2: 26:33

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, at some point I would love it, like in the beginning. I would love that I have like someone who could tell me about it. I have tried everything myself and see how it all worked out and how everything works. But yeah, I think it would have been like really good if I started with someone around me who could tell me everything about the business.

Speaker 1: 26:54

Yeah, yeah, okay, so we have to talk. Can you tell us a little bit more, because I think the people like to hear more about your private life. So do you have you already said you have some free time one time per week? Do you have some hobbies? Or what you are doing per day, or how is your day looking?

Speaker 2: 27:21

and yeah, yeah, well, honestly, when I'm, when I'm like from Monday to Friday, I don't really do much else than walking. And when I'm not working, I like to take power naps in between my shows. I like to do that and I love to just just lay on the couch and just watch some, some series or movies. That's something I really love. And besides that, I do like to work out when I have time and energy for it. And I like cars, of course, especially with this, with this, with the summer coming up, it's nice to drive around and just just drive for a little.

Speaker 2: 28:00

That's something I like, and I love vacations as well.

Speaker 1: 28:04

I love watching Vacations. Yes, with your business, right? What did you say? It's not so easy with your business.

Speaker 2: 28:12

No, it's, I don't. I don't know. I barely go right now, but at some point I would love to do it more. It's just hard for me to let everything go and just go on vacation.

Speaker 1: 28:24

Is it like this so if you go on vacation, you have also on platform some places. Right, if you're good, how often you are streaming? And it's like this If you're there and if you're not streaming for example, one hour, one, one week or two weeks is it hard to come up again?

Speaker 2: 28:47

Well, it's funny because last year it was the first time that I went away for a week on vacation, so I was really excited after all that time that I worked One week. I have to say one week is doable. It's doable. I just right in time, I was telling people that I would be on vacation and I in that time I would have posed a lot on, like my socials so people could see that I'm on vacation and I'm still around, just not on the camera right now. But in last October I went away two weeks and my experience was that two weeks was a lot In a way that it does take some more time to come up again. You easily forget people in two weeks. That that's just. It's a hard business. If you are not around, they will find someone else. So yeah, two weeks was a lot. I would not go two weeks again.

Speaker 1: 29:41

But it's also hard. It's hard for the mind and for the mental health. Always have this pressure on your head. I can't go away for a long time right.

Speaker 2: 29:54

Yes, maul, but the thing is you could do that. I'm not saying that it's the end of your career, not at all but I think that it takes some time. And I think that is different from people to people, but I do have some regulars. They would always stick around. But, yeah, if you have people who are not often seeing you, they just come by like every now and then, and if they don't see you for two weeks, they must be like well, she's not here, I'm just going to someone else.

Speaker 1: 30:23

So yeah, yeah, I understand, I understand. So, if you go on vacation, are you doing because I know you are hard worker are you doing content from there too for your fan pages? You say before, for social media, yes, but also for your fan pages?

Speaker 2: 30:45

Well, honestly, the last two times that I went on vacation I filled my queue already, so I was sure that I had like content to post, because I wasn't sure that I was like I want to make some content over there. But I don't know how things go and how I feel when I'm on vacation, because usually I feel that when I'm not working I easily get like exhausted. It's weird, because you're out of your rhythm. I don't know how it works.

Speaker 1: 31:12

I know this I get depressions if I'm not working For one day. I'm feeling so bad.

Speaker 2: 31:22

Yeah, it's not good, but it's just how it feels. So that's why I always want to make sure that my queue is filled, so that, even though, if I'm making content or not, I still have things to post. So I always do that up front. How?

Speaker 1: 31:37

much do you? How long do you schedule some things? For one week, for two weeks, for one month?

Speaker 2: 31:48

That really depends. I did have some time that I had everything scheduled for at least a month, but that really depends, because sometimes yes, I've had that before but usually not that long. Because sometimes it feels that when I'm making photos or something, sometimes I'm in a good vibe and I can make photos for hours long and then I have a lot of photos, but sometimes I also feel like I don't know, it's not working well with the lightning or I don't know and you end up making two good photos, so it really depends.

Speaker 1: 32:21

I know, I know. So, yeah, I was. The problem is, if I scheduled in the past things for too long for me is long to two weeks then I never know what I have, what I have scheduled. You know?

Speaker 2: 32:41

Yeah, I see, and then it's like but I personally prefer that when I make a bunch of photos, to schedule them upfront, because I also know that I have had times that I've made like a hundred good photos and I was posting them one by one every day and at a certain point I was like, which one did I post it, which one did I not post? And then I was scrolling back all the way through my post to see if I had it posted or not and photos got waste after that.

Speaker 2: 33:09

So, and I personally like the fact that you are not in stress if you have something scheduled upfront. I don't like the feeling that I'm like I'm waking up and I have to make photos now because I have to post today. I don't like that feeling.

Speaker 1: 33:24

I understand. So you just for the girls, because they like to learn about something like content schedule and content planning. So you have, you are doing webcam six days per week and one day you are doing content, for example, four, five, six hours. Yes, yes, I have scheduled everything for two, three weeks.

Speaker 2: 33:53

Yeah, sometimes, if I have a good session, then I can schedule two, three, four weeks, but also sometimes I end up scheduling for one week. It really depends, but I usually at least prefer having it two weeks just for my own, just for myself. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 34:09

I think every girl have find the best way to do it. Yeah, but a lot of I know that a lot of girls are struggling with content and then, especially when I'm working with young girls, and then they starting, they're really good, they have a lot of potential and they come, so they are so successful in one month. And then I check their account and then they haven't post for two months and I say what's going? What's going? The problem is you lost also fans. You know, yes, it's a problem and I always to them please schedule something, you don't have to do a lot, but you have to schedule something because you lost fans and they don't understand also, you understand it. You say it's your time now because you are young, you can do a lot and they don't understand if you're young and you're looking like young and you have the power and you're looking good.

Speaker 2: 35:13

Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:15

And you have to do the work. You have to do the work, so it doesn't matter if you have private problems, so that doesn't matter if you have a lot to do. It's consistency, right.

Speaker 2: 35:27

Yeah, and that's, that's a choice you're making. I do see that as well. Lots of girls just doing a bit of it and then they, they spend their money and then they are going to back on it and try it again. But I'm personally like, of course I barely go out, I, I just I just don't. But that's a choice that I have made, and now I'm young and I want to do as much as I can now, and then I want to invest, and then I just I'm also, I'm also not going out.

Speaker 2: 35:53

Not anymore. No, I'm really bad at that. I just, I just I don't know, it's not my thing, but that's a choice I have made, and I do understand others. They are young and they want to party and stuff like that. That's all fine. But yeah, I just chose to do it differently.

Speaker 1: 36:09

So this girl's also known have a bout a house, right, you're 21. You're about a house. You don't go outside. You don't go outside for party. You are working. You're working at the weekend. You're working seven days per week.

Speaker 2: 36:22

Yeah, basically, basically always yes, yeah, yeah, but that's a choice I have made. I can easily just just skip days, but I do know that when I do it like this, I could make the most of it. So, yeah, and now I'm still young and my goal is, at a certain point, that when I'm 30 or maybe a little younger than I just I don't know and I will take it a little downwards and yeah.

Speaker 1: 36:49

You can be really, really, really proud of you. Thank you that you have this, this mindset. A lot of girls don't have it and, yeah, you should do the best what you can do now in young and you are doing it already. Another question Are you traveling around? So for business? Because in my case, it was like this A lot of girls always. I was 10 years ago.

Speaker 1: 37:21

I started in 2012 to travel from my own money to some shows. So not shows for models, shows for affiliates, shows for companies, so summit. So, for example, in Prague, barcelona, lisbon, where was I? Was there to get in contact with some companies and a lot of. That's why I know, I already know a lot of companies. I know a lot of people and a lot of girls. When I ask them, hey, will you be at the expats, for example, in Berlin, they told me, no, I won't be there, no company will pay me, but the girls don't understand contacts. Are your money also in the future to get in touch with other companies, to also get in touch with other models? Yeah, so also your future? Are you and I think we talked before about the Express Amsterdam Are you going, sometimes for yourself, to shows or only if you are, for example, your biggest camp platform, booked you.

Speaker 2: 38:38

No, honestly, I have never been to one, and it's not that I don't want to go, but the coming, the platforms at that point I'm working for, only have those things in America, and America is nice, but it's not that I can easily. Just I don't know. I'm living in the Netherlands.

Speaker 1: 38:55

It's really expensive.

Speaker 2: 38:57

Yeah, also when it takes a lot of time. It's not just one trip and you are like back in a weekend, like that would be crazy. But yeah, at some point I would love it, but it's just always far away. So that's why I was asking about Amsterdam.

Speaker 1: 39:12

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we didn't know, but I will let you know. I will let you know. Yeah, and when the last year in Berlin the girls for other camp platforms. They are online at the shows.

Speaker 2: 39:26

Yeah, that's what you see a lot with the experts in America as well.

Speaker 1: 39:31

Yes, yes, yes. That's why I'm asking if you are also there. So also another question, because I think a lot of girls will be really interested in this question Are you working with an agency, because your Instagram grows a lot in the past.

Speaker 2: 39:51

Yes, my Instagram date.

Speaker 1: 39:57

And I think it also was deleted right.

Speaker 2: 40:00

Yes, my Instagram, my main account, was deleted for six months and then it came just back up out of nowhere, because I have sent a lot of messages to Instagram but I never got any and at a certain point it was just there. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 40:16

So you have a social media agency? I think, right, I do have. I have a typical agency for fan platforms. Whatever the problem is, I'm working with a lot of agencies and they really know nothing about social media.

Speaker 2: 40:31

Yes, I do have a guy well, two of them, and they know everything about social media.

Speaker 1: 40:39

I think that's the best.

Speaker 2: 40:40

Yeah, absolutely, because there are lots of things to achieve with social media, but it's just, you just need to find the way, how to.

Speaker 1: 40:50

How to do it.

Speaker 2: 40:51

Yeah, since I have been working with them for my social medias, they also got my Instagram back. I don't know how they did, but they got it back for me and since that moment now it's like growing. So, yeah, that's pretty good.

Speaker 1: 41:03

Pretty nice. Yeah, I saw your Instagram. When we started to work together. I saw it. It wasn't. You wasn't really active, you get banned, whatever. And now you're growing a lot. You do a lot of really great content. I really love it. I really love it and you have nothing to do, you only have to shoot. You only shoot content, right.

Speaker 2: 41:28

Yes, I'm doing the doing the TikToks, of course, for the Reels. That's the things that I'm doing, and I'm I do post my own photos, but the stories and everything that's where they take care of.

Speaker 1: 41:39

So when are you creating your TikToks at your content day?

Speaker 2: 41:45

Yes, but I also try to do them more, a little bit more, during the week, because it's better if you do it a few times a week than just one day a week. So, yeah, Because it's a lot right, yes, it's a lot. I have several accounts. So, yeah, it takes quite some time, especially if you have transition videos or something. If you have an easy video where you just show your head and move around, that one's simple to make, especially if you've done it a few times already. But if you've got transition ones or something, it takes quite some time.

Speaker 1: 42:13

So yeah, I know, I know, I know how long do you need for how many accounts, TikTok accounts do you have?

Speaker 2: 42:21

I currently have 12 accounts, but I'm not using them all.

Speaker 1: 42:26

What.

Speaker 2: 42:27

Yes, yes, it's 12. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 42:32

Okay, how many accounts are active?

Speaker 2: 42:36

Currently I have eight of them active, but I want to.

Speaker 1: 42:41

You are posting on eight accounts.

Speaker 2: 42:43

Yes, I do. I do Because I got banned several times already, because I no, come on, not with your content. Yeah, I do, I do. I do Because I have quite some tricky ones, but yeah, that's a thing that works the best for me. So yeah, those are pretty silly ones, but it works, so yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:07

Yeah, I think it's also not the goal to grow the accounts really big. I think it's the goal on TikTok to do it so spicy as you can, right.

Speaker 2: 43:20

Yeah, but giving them a clue with what you're doing without telling what you're doing. So, yeah, you want to tell them what you're doing, but don't say it out loud. So you just want to show it with the TikToks you're making. So yeah, then you're going to make some crazy weird TikToks, but yeah.

Speaker 1: 43:37

Okay, and also you're really good on Twitter. Are you posting on Twitter safe or would you say it's not so safe on Twitter?

Speaker 2: 43:50

Well, it is safe. To a second point I do have some photos which are not safe, but I don't really use Twitter a lot anymore because I somehow have the feeling that I'm like stuck on Twitter so and my social media agents told me that Twitter is not really the best platform. So yeah, that's why I'm not doing a lot on that anymore, so mostly on Instagram and on Telegram.

Speaker 1: 44:19

So yeah, Okay, amber, what I can, what I will ask you more. So if there are some girls and they really like to work and learn from you, where is the best way to contact you?

Speaker 2: 44:39

Well, I would say I have to admit that I usually would say through Instagram, but somehow when you have a business account on Instagram, you are not getting your DMs. I don't know why. I know, I know, I know. Yeah, that's why I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 44:53

So Instagram is not the best way.

Speaker 2: 44:57

Then I would say, I would say write me an email.

Speaker 1: 45:02

Okay, I think I will, I will put you will give me email or you will give me a link where they can text you. There's also a good way for you, for example, to create one time film, something like in like in how to do how to be a successful cam model. Just film it one time and sell it. You also can do it like this, because I think there are a lot of girls they're like to learn, because all the girls are asking me about what I'm doing and because they like to go away from from the German platforms and they are asking hey, hey, jesse, where can start? How it's working. Then I say I'm so sorry I'm not online there, but I I have a really, I have a really big girl there. But yeah, I know also you don't have a lot of time, so, but maybe it's a good way to think about something like this in the future. I think it's a good way to think about it. I think it's a good way to think about it.

Speaker 2: 46:04

I would definitely love it and right now, if someone is reaching out to me, I definitely help where I can, Absolutely and honestly.

Speaker 1: 46:11

I'm really good, but hey, you can do it all the time for free because it's your time.

Speaker 2: 46:16

No, honestly, honestly, I'm really honest. What I'm usually doing is, when people are on a start with something I ask them, the only thing they have to do is use my referral link.

Speaker 1: 46:27

And if they do, that's the best way.

Speaker 2: 46:28

Yeah, and if they do, then I'm more than happy to help, because it's not that you don't have to give me something, it's just that it takes me time because there are quite a lot of things that comes with it. So, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1: 46:41

So, girls, you heard it. So if you like to learn from one of the biggest models on Chetrubate, Amber, you need Amber's referral link and then she will start with you.

Speaker 2: 46:57

Yeah, that's all I need.

Speaker 1: 47:00

And they have to like to work, because I know it's a pain in the ass. When you started with girls, you put a lot of time in the girls yeah, that's happened a lot, yes, and then they stop.

Speaker 2: 47:15

Yeah, I'm always too nice and I'm always too kind, and when they come up with excuses I'm always like, oh, I'm so sorry. And then at a certain point I'm like you're telling me the same excuse 10 times. It's like fine, you can just be honest with me and that's the thing that I really care about, that. If you don't like it, or at a certain point you're trying and you are like this is not something for me, just tell me and then I'm all good with that.

Speaker 1: 47:36

I already have that, yeah, and it's really also for me. For me, sometimes it's really frustrating.

Speaker 2: 47:44

Yeah, it really is, especially if you take lots of time and effort in it.

Speaker 1: 47:47

Yeah, and you yourself realize it's a big chance for them and they don't grab the chance.

Speaker 2: 47:59

Yeah, that's the thing that I'm also like. I'm like I wish I had that chance when I started, because I figured everything out myself and I think if I started with someone around who could give me, like tells me more inside information, I would have started way stronger than I did. So, yeah, yeah, that's also the thing.

Speaker 1: 48:16

That's also why I was. Maris Michaels was also with me in the podcast and that's also why she started her own company, Sex Work CO Also about this to help girls, and it's amazing what she's posting on her Sex Work CO Instagram. In reals she gives a lot of tips and tricks. It's so helpful for the girls.

Speaker 2: 48:42

Yeah, that's not easy, yeah.

Speaker 1: 48:43

Yeah, so when you started, I think when you started, when I'm started, 10 years ago, girls won't help other girls.

Speaker 2: 48:53

No, they still still a lot, but not. But yeah, it's like this right, oh, I know.

Speaker 1: 49:00

Okay, amber, thank you so much for your time. Thank you, it was a really nice talk with you. Yes absolutely yeah, and I'm really, I'm really thankful, thankful that you was on my podcast.

Speaker 2: 49:17

You're welcome. Thanks to you. Yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 1: 49:21

So yeah, I will come back to you with some cool reels about the podcast and. I hope you will have a wonderful day today.

Speaker 2: 49:33

Thank you, you too Thank you. Thank you.

Speaker 1: 49:38

Bye, bye.

Speaker 2: 49:39

Bye, bye, bye.